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AC Input to Bridge < DC Output! Amazing

09/14/2011 2:44 AM

Dear Friends;

I was testing a DC motor via a variable out put transformer where the out put of transformer was fed into a bridge rectifier and then to Armature. Field was fed via separate transformer. Summery was as following,

Field

Input to bridge rectifier = 110VAC

Output = ((110 x 1.414)-1.4) x 0.636) = 98VDC OK

For Armature

Input to bridge rectifier = 102VAC

Output to Arm = 126VDC while it should be;

((102 x 1.414)-1.4) x 0.636) = 91VDC

I also measured the voltage via analog meter and result was same. I increased the AC input voltage to bridge and found the same results that output voltage at bridge were always > than input voltage.

Can any bode explain why the voltage were 126VDC instead of 91?

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Re: AC input to bridge < DC output!!!!! Amazing

09/14/2011 2:55 AM

Hope this following link help you:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rectifier

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Re: AC input to bridge < DC output!!!!! Amazing

09/14/2011 3:12 AM

Well for starters your math is wrong.

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Re: AC Input to Bridge < DC Output! Amazing

09/14/2011 1:18 PM

The AC voltage you are measuring is a representation of the "root mean squared" or RMS value. In order for this measurement to be accurate, the AC waveform must be sinusoidal and free of harmonics. Some meters (much more expensive) can give you a True RMS value for AC voltages which are not your usual sinusoid.

In your formula, you are multiplying the RMS value by 1.414. This gives you the zero to peak value of the voltage. So, if you rectify this and store it in a capacitor, it will charge up to the Peak voltage (relative to the zero or cross over voltage).

The 0.636 factor is a result of the type of rectifier used. See the link from the respondent above for more about rectifier types.

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Re: AC Input to Bridge < DC Output! Amazing

09/19/2011 1:03 AM

Dear all,

If the bridge output has a capacitance, DC voltage is

((102 x 1.414)-1.4) x 0.9) = 128.6VDC

0.9 is approximate value. So I guess there is a capacitance in bridge output or Armature circuit.

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