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Pressure & Vacuum

09/16/2011 12:24 AM

What is the difference between pressure and vacuum?

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09/16/2011 12:32 AM

Vacuum is just the absence of pressure.On Earth, pressure pushes down on you. In space, vacuum blows you up like a balloon.That's lame, but it's all you get from me.

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09/16/2011 1:07 AM

Atmospheric pressure is 1.0332 kg/cm2. So at 1.0332 kg/cm2 pressure we don't feel any pressure. In fact in practical purposes reference point for measuring pressure is atmospheric pressure and is called gauge pressure. So value of gauge pressure is 1.0332 kg/cm2 lower than absolute pressure.

Above atmospheric pressure is called gauge pressure and below atmospheric pressure is called vacuum pressure or simply vacuum. In other words vacuum is negative gauge pressure. Positive gauge pressure presses and negative gauge pressure pulls. It can be compared with compressive stress and tensile stress for materials. Incidentally the unit for both pressure and stress is same.

It applies to human psychology too. When we have too much work load, we say- "I'm pressed". But when we think too much without end result, we say- "I'm tense".

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09/16/2011 9:05 AM

Just to clarify:

"Vacuum is just the absence of pressure." - No. Total absence of pressure is a perfect vacuum, but a pressure of, say, 500mbara is also a vacuum.

"Positive gauge pressure presses and negative gauge pressure pulls." - Be careful what you say here, or you will have people jumping on your back, who may eventually try to persuade you that suction doesn't exist. Vacuum (or negative gauge pressure) does not "pull", it has no attractive effect, it just allows a higher pressure to "push".

Vacuum is specifically the zone of pressure between 0 atmospheres absolute and 1 atmosphere absolute.

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09/17/2011 12:47 AM

i've heard people describe "cold" in the same way many people describe suction. both are just an adjective that descibes "the lack of".

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09/17/2011 6:25 AM

Suction is not the lack of anything. It is the movement of matter due to a pressure gradient. It can also occur at high pressures, as long as there is a pressure differential, so has nothing to do with low pressure, and most certainly has nothing to do with vacuum (although the two terms are often wrongly seen as interchangeable). You can have suction without vacuum, and vacuum without suction. The following is an extract from Wikipedia, which I think also defines suction rather well:

"Suction is the flow of a fluid into a partial vacuum, or region of low pressure. The pressure gradient between this region and the ambient pressure will propel matter toward the low pressure area. Suction is popularly thought of as an attractive effect, which is incorrect since vacuums do not innately attract matter. Dust being "sucked" into a vacuum cleaner is actually being pushed in by the higher pressure air on the outside of the cleaner.

The higher pressure of the surrounding fluid can push matter into a vacuum but a vacuum cannot attract matter."

So, suction is the movement of matter due to a pressure gradient. It has nothing to do with pressure itself, only with differential pressure.

Vacuum is also not necessarily the lack of anything. For example, it would be considered a vacuum condition when a vessel has an internal pressure of, say, 500mbara. Yet this is a positive pressure, it is just that it is less than atmospheric pressure. Vacuum is specifically the pressure range between zero pressure and atmospheric pressure.

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09/18/2011 3:30 AM

i stand corrected. thanks

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09/18/2011 8:59 AM

GA, Thanks Holzfeller for correction of my post #2.

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08/29/2013 10:54 AM

Dear Sir,

Iam using a vacuum pumping system connected with 3-4 vacuum chambers through a header. I need to evacuate the chambers to 1-2 Mtor. If I keep the header in a lower ambiant temperature ( say 20, zero or minus 20 degree celsious ), will it help to increase the pumping speed which ultimatly reduce the total time required to achieve the desired vacuum?

your answer will be helpful to improve my system

Thanks N regards,

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