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Downhill continuous braking. Please help

04/22/2007 5:31 PM

Hi, it me and downhill braking again. I still havn't got this right yet.

If I follow my braking specification it tells me the following:

With continuous braking

1.5.2.1. The service brakes of trailers of categories O2 and O3 must be tested in such a

manner that, the vehicle being laden, the energy input to the brakes is

equivalent to that recorded in the same period of time with a laden vehicle

driven at a steady speed of 40 km/h on a 7 per cent down-gradient for a

distance of 1.7 km.

1.5.2.2. The test may be carried out on a level road, the trailer being drawn by a towing

vehicle; during the test, the force applied to the control must be adjusted so as

to keep the resistance of the trailer constant (7 per cent of the maximum total

stationary axle load of the trailer). If the power available for hauling is

insufficient, the test can be conducted at a lower speed but over a greater

distance as shown in the table below:

Speed [km/h] Distance [metres]

40 1,700

30 1,950

20 2,500

15 3,100

How do they get to these distances? I have tried various calculations and I still dont get the right answer.

I have the vehicle as weighing 25000kg.

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Re: Downhill continuous braking. Please help

04/23/2007 12:18 AM

I'd have to say I can't get the math to work in a way that makes those four test alternatives equivalent. Perhaps there is some empirical evidence re the ability of typical brakes to dissipate heat that makes the math work out differently than expected?

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Re: Downhill continuous braking. Please help

04/23/2007 1:40 AM

Thanks Blink, it has me copletely baffled at present.

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Re: Downhill continuous braking. Please help

04/23/2007 11:34 PM

It's easy...the peron who wrote the spec was not a mathematician. You were not expected to analyze the math. Just do the test.

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Re: Downhill continuous braking. Please help

04/24/2007 2:33 AM

May be they are taking into account lower level of heat generated during braking at lower speed & possibly better heat dissipation of the brake drums cooling down over a greater time period.

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Re: Downhill continuous braking. Please help

04/24/2007 4:37 PM

the increased lengths consider the heat dissipating ability of the brakes during the longer time at slower speeds. Whit is important is to demonstrate the braking system can reliable dissipate the kinetic AND potential energy involved in stopping the vehicle at its maximum weight. These US truck/trailer braking requirements are really far easier to meet with new components and are significantly lower than what real world requirements should be. They SHOULD be conducted using aged components at 'minimum allowable lining and drum thickness' to firmly establish minimum acceptable performance.

You should read what the FAA requires of aircraft braking systems.

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