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Deep Trunk Sewer Excavation Methods

09/24/2011 6:30 AM

Which method is Faster & Economical for excavating 10m deep sewer line. Open Cut or Shoring with sheet pile?

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Re: Deep Trunk Sewer Excavation Methods

09/24/2011 9:21 AM

Not enough information is given to effectively answer your question.

There's no soil data presented, nor is there any mention of the depth to groundwater, if it exists. There's no mention of IF any existing buried utilities are present in the excavation zone (?). There's no mention how large (diameter) a sewer line in being installed (or is it being rehabilitated or replaced?). There's no mention what type of pipe material.....Also, is there even any room in the work area to even open cut along the route of this sewer line; existing highways, streets and roads together with existing buildings and topography have to be considered and protected?

I could go on and on.....

At 10m, or approximately 30 feet. depth if is extremely dangerous and foolish to work in that type of excavation without any sort of sheetpiling that has been previously installed. IMO, a steel or aluminum "trench box" will be insufficient for worker and pipeline protection at such an excavation depth.

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Re: Deep Trunk Sewer Excavation Methods

09/24/2011 10:00 PM

if i understand the question, you need to shore up the walls to prevent the sides from caving in. the method will depend on soil conditions and personal saftey. will you have men in the ditch for example. i doubt if you need sheet piling. i've seen concrete forms used to shore up the walls. of course you will need heavy bracing running from wall to wall. it would be best to hire an engineer. he can tell you the correct procedure and the engineer will assume the liablity

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Re: Deep Trunk Sewer Excavation Methods

09/25/2011 2:34 PM

If you are in a wide open field with no utilities, no adjacent pavement, no ground water, and future conditions will be about the same, then open trench with the sides cut back will be the most economical of the two methods of construction mentioned. The sides of the trench must be cut back to prevent collapse of the sidewalls. Collapse of the sidewalls not only set backs the forward progress you have made, but it is etremely dangerous to have anybody in the pit without the sides cut back or shoring.

In addition, you need to consider what the trench backfill requirements are. If the trench is in a wide open field and will be in that condition afterwards, there is a fair chance that no trench backfill material other than the pipe bedding will be required. Because of the depth and the side cut backs, if trench backfill is required, the amount required will be tremendous. If you can use the excavated earth as trench backfill, then open cut is most likely cheaper.

However, if you are not in an open field and/or future conditions are not an open field, then using shoring and/or stacked trench boxes is going to be more economical.

You did mention it was a trunk sewer, so I am guessing the diameter of the sewer is significant. However, if the diameter is smaller than 24 inches and the length of the sewer is 400 feet or more, I suggest looking at the drilling and jacking or directional drilling. That method has a lot of advantages and not dealing with utilities, trench backfill, road closures, etc. can more than make up for other additional costs associated with drilling.

I agree with the first reply in that you do not provide sufficient information to make a specific reply. However, I can reply with the aforementioned general guidelines. I am still giving a good answer to the first reply. I do think they could have given you some generalities.

Good Luck.

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Re: Deep Trunk Sewer Excavation Methods

09/26/2011 11:04 AM

Open cut requires Shoring, you can not have one without the other. Sloping the trench open cut method is not practical at that depth.

Some context would be helpfull

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Re: Deep Trunk Sewer Excavation Methods

09/28/2011 11:41 PM

Hooooookay, so you want to place a sewer trunk line 10m deep, of unspecified material, of unspecified length, at an unspecified location, of an unspecified capacity, in unspecified soil conditions, etc.

Well, first of all, 10m is almost 33 feet deep, which is a serious trench...

Driving sheet piling that deep can be a rather challenging, depending on the nature of the subsurface material, and that's if the material isn't very sandy, and seasonal groundwater levels don't affect the excavation.

Let's just simplistically say that such a vertical-walled trench would be required to be 1m wide. Then, the trench would require the removal of 10m-deep x 1m-wide x 1 m-thick amount of earth, which would be 10m3 to be removed for each linear meter of trench. That adds up fast.

For comparisons' sake, let's similarly say that the soil is such that it requires side-slopes of 1-to-1. Then the excavation would look like an inverted trapeziod sitting on a 1m side, be 10m high, and 21m wide at it's top. This would be 110 m3 per linear meter of trench. That adds up eleven times as fast as the vertical wall trench discussed above...

This collectively suggests that you follow the advice of ccoop610 in regards to "drilling or jacking or directional drilling", or even out-right tunneling.

However, sheet piling and open-trenching will probably have to be done to some extent as well.

Sewer lines have to start from somewhere with a connection to an existing sewer line, or other structure. This will probably require an area to be boxed-out to full-depth, with sheet piles, at least, in order to start said trunk line. Such a box-out area would probally have be big enough to hold the drilling machinery and crew to work 10m below surface grade.

Also, sewer lines might well have to have manholes and/or pumping stations every 50 to 400 meters along it's full length. These would also probably require similar boxed-out areas.

While this sort of work is not (rocket-surgery), it still has characteristic intrinsic complexities of it's own that should be fully taken into consideration.

At some point in such an effort, I would hope that a thorough geotechnical engineers' report, among others, would clarify some of the choices to carefully considered.

A design-build contract with bid-item alternatives for 2,3, or more methods, or combinations of methods, is strongly suggested. Fully qualified experience and capability is well worth paying for, if you get a minimum of three bids, for starters.

Let the engineers do the engineering, and the bidding process do the budgeting...

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