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Radiation Protection

09/30/2011 4:48 PM

where can I get radiation protective clothing that protects against alpha, beta, and gamma rays?

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09/30/2011 5:01 PM

Have you tried searching for it?

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09/30/2011 5:02 PM

For what time period? That is to ask, how long an exposure event do you need protection? 100% of your body?

Gamma rays will probably require lead clothes.

Are you going on a space ship ride?

LynDoor Industries may have exactly that which you seek. Delivery in the 48 United States is available.

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09/30/2011 5:33 PM

the suit is for protection on oil fields.

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09/30/2011 6:59 PM

These guys might pose a threat to buisness... Their marketing campain might get ugly

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09/30/2011 5:15 PM

My partner forgot to post a picture of the currrent model.Look, it's Friday afternoon and I want to go home.

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09/30/2011 5:19 PM

Man, we are both on it today!

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09/30/2011 5:51 PM

Now that we've had our fun, I'd think the drilling company would protect their workers

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09/30/2011 6:35 PM

the suit is for my cousin who works on oil fields in Ukraine where there is absolutely no work safety requirements of any kind.

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09/30/2011 6:46 PM

My advice to you is to search "oilfield safety equipment suppliers" then call them.

Doesn't look like too popular an item. Maybe not much demand.

Good luck.

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09/30/2011 7:05 PM

tried that but didn't find anything. Thanks for the info though.

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09/30/2011 11:51 PM

Alpha and Beta are easily protected against with clothing. Gamma is much more dangerous. This forum has a lot of experts but I strongly implore you to seek other expert help if you are going to experience Gamma radiation of any type. This is not just hot air blowing.

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10/01/2011 11:11 AM

Alpha is easy; I seem to remember that even a sheet of paper will stop them. Someone above says beta is also easy. For gamma, check out the protective aprons that dentists use to protect patients from X-rays.

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10/01/2011 11:00 PM

aprons only partially protect against gamma. I am looking for something with bigger coverage, like a jump suit or something along those lines.

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10/02/2011 7:28 PM

aprons only partially protect against gamma. I am looking for something with bigger coverage, like a jump suit or something along those lines.

Granted. I was thinking, but didn't say it, that the folks who make the protective aprons might also make some other garment that would provide the protection needed.

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10/01/2011 2:27 PM

Try an aluminium foil hat. Always worked for me

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10/01/2011 11:00 PM

i'm curious as to why he would need protection from gamma rays while working in an oil field???

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10/01/2011 11:03 PM

when they drill oil wells and put the pipes in, the pipes go deep enough where they're exposed to radioactive substances. When the pipes come out, they are radioactive.

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10/01/2011 11:17 PM

"when they drill oil wells and put the pipes in, the pipes go deep enough where they're exposed to radioactive substances. When the pipes come out, they are radioactive."

where did you learn this ? especially about them emitting gamma rays ?

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10/01/2011 11:42 PM

that's what happens on Ukrainian oil fields.

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10/02/2011 7:47 PM

when they drill oil wells and put the pipes in, the pipes go deep enough where they're exposed to radioactive substances. When the pipes come out, they are radioactive.

Perhaps "stupid" questions, but they might help someone else come up with a solution.

Is the radioactivity on or in the steel pipes? If "on," could it be washed off? (But then what do you do with the wash water!)

If "in," the place where they pile the pipes would be a radioactive field (not a farm field!) which would get worse as the pipes accumulate. This would mean that the whole crew, not just those directly working with the pipe would have to be protected. It would also mean huge transportation problems if the pipe has to be hauled to some other site. If the public finds out, watch out! They seem to be frightened of anything nuclear/radioactive even if extremely low level.

Have you measured this radiation? Is it a fact or a conjecture? How does the radiation intensity compare with the always-present background radiation? Why has this not been discovered with all the wells thru the years? Is the induced radioactivity large enough that you have to worry about it? (If tiny, perhaps the exposure over a full workweek is no sweat.)

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10/02/2011 8:07 PM

all that is for certain is the fact that there is alpha, beta, and gamma radiation. No one knows how much and since it's in Ukraine, the company and government officials don't pay much attention to the hazards. The workers are just greatful to be employed.

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10/02/2011 11:10 PM

Tell your cousin to get another job. I hear McDonalds is hiring. The pay sucks but he will be able to have kids and they won't have 3 arms and one eye.

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10/02/2011 7:41 PM

The wiki is pretty clear that you're not likely to find wearable gamma shielding - too heavy or too thick to work in - and you can make things worse by using improper shielding.

What is needed is a management program for the NORM hazards on site. For an example of how to set up such a program try this health Canada page.

Disposable coveralls are used, and disposed as hazardous waste.

Don't know where in the world you are but there are a lot of vendors out there selling disposable coveralls and work safety clothing. For the best price, google for wholesale deals. Good luck!

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10/02/2011 8:10 PM

unfortunately the vendors that I came across don't sell protective clothing against alpha, beta, and gamma rays. It would be next to impossible to implement any kind of NORM hazard management program in Ukraine.

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10/02/2011 8:32 PM

As I said before, I don't believe gamma protective clothing exists that would be suitable for working in. The practice in industry is to deal with the alpha-beta particulate issues (don't breathe, eat, contact) with disposable coveralls, gloves, masks etc. , make sure the hazard area is clearly marked, and set up a program to monitor gamma exposures.

The vendors linked above have protective clothing for various hazards, search the catalogues and find out the standard for NORM. And that is as good as you can get for your cousin, it's better than nothing.

Of course if you are really mad about gamma, you can still try the LynDoor lead pajamas. Really - I hear they're light enough to dance the flamenco in, but I just didn't believe it....

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10/04/2011 11:37 AM

You don't wear gamma shielding...you use a closed environment (lab or nuclear reactor!)

Have your relative purchase a personal dosimeter to determine the type, rate and levels of exposure.

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