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Neutral Current is High

10/05/2011 10:12 PM

Hi All,

Share problem, A genset #1 500 kVA/380VAC LL/50hz with the alternator has fail to supply voltage, check and found on alternator exciter rotor winding damaged, so repair the alternator by rewinding. Before the alternator damaged all synchronizing and loadsharing has no problem, just because the environment - humid and dusty the alternator damaged. After repaired test the set single, voltage 380 L-L balanced then parallel and loadshare (with genset #2 800 kVA/380 VAC LL/50 hz) on 30% load and 0.7 cos phi, ampere read G#1 for U-V-W is 500 amps/phase and neutral amp is 100 amps (high). for G#2 30% load 0.7 cos phi, the U-V-W amps is 825 amps/phase and neutral amps is 5-10 amps.

I suspect that the alternator not wind correctly, so we cannibalize the G#1 alternator with the same size and test load at parallel, the G#1 neutral amps is below 10 amps at same load as previous test.

So please kindly advise what could be wrong with the alternator that has rewinding.

Thanks in advance

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Re: Neutral Current is High

10/06/2011 2:01 AM

you're problem may not be in the generator itself but i think your loads have something to do with this...you mentioned a while ago about the environment regarding with the location of your gensets and based on your previous condition your gensets are functioning well untill that incident happened....i think you may have experienced a line to ground fault (or do you have any means of detecting ground faults in each phase of your system?)...you mentioned a high neutral current which means that a ground fault already occured as is probably sustained by your system...and another reason why your other genset is having a small amount of neutral current is because it is Resistance-grounded (NGR) and the other is solidly grounded...

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Re: Neutral Current is High

10/06/2011 11:57 PM

Single phase SMPS power supplies make neutral current high. What type of loads you are using?

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Re: Neutral Current is High

10/07/2011 2:20 AM

Disconnect all the 1 ph loads and keep only 3 ph loads on the generator. Now the neutral current should drop to near zero. If it doesn't ,then there is an earth fault. If it does drop to zero, then switch on the single phase circuits one by one and find out which load is contributing to the high neutral current. Try to balance them on 3 phases by rearranging the connections.

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Re: Neutral Current is High

10/07/2011 6:09 AM

First of all, the numbers you stated do not make sense:

- 500 kVA at 380v LL loaded at 30% only, will not be reading 500Amps per phase!!!? The full load for this genset at p.f. of 0.7 is 500*0.7*0.3 = 105 kW and this will give 105*1000/(380 * 1.73) =159.7 Amps (~160 A). Your 500 A / phase does not tally.

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