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Generator Problem

10/11/2011 3:39 AM

During our run on our turbine generator (1250kw), we notice that there was already a 600 voltsAC voltage reading on the generator meter despite the AVR was still in the off-state. Before, it was only reading around 90-110volts and when the AVR is switch to on, the bus voltage of 440 volts(variable) is visible. We replace the avr, but still the problem exists. what could be the cause?

Any advice/solution?

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#1

Re: generator problem

10/11/2011 5:23 AM

that is a residual voltage in generator without avr, that is no need to replace the avr,

i'm a service engineer for the avr panel, for any doubt ask me

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#2
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Re: generator problem

10/11/2011 8:04 PM

thanks, but with this residual voltage in the generator of around 600volts AC, is it safe to turn on the avr of the generator without harming it? we are apprehensive to turn on the avr since before, the residual voltage (avr off-state) was just around 90-110volts ac. will the avr control the gen voltage with this higher residual voltage?

please advice and once again thank you and much appreciated

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#3

Re: Generator Problem

10/11/2011 10:59 PM

I bet dollars to donoughts, that the lover voltage shows up only in no load condition. A few 10 kW load (lights, heater) drops it low. It is caused by the remaining magnetism in steel (both rotor and stator), but there is no real power in it. No need to bother the voltage regulator.

Once the test is done, do not forget to remove the temporary load, before going online.

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#4
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Re: Generator Problem

10/11/2011 11:17 PM

got it! thank you guys. appreciated much

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#5

Re: Generator Problem

10/11/2011 11:41 PM

It sounds like it could be a transductor arrangement(see <http://accelconf.web.cern.ch/accelconf/p73/PDF/PAC1973_0360.PDF> ) or saturable reactor.

Briefly, one type of transductor is a transformer, single or multiphase which is designed to be able to put out excessive voltage.

Additional windings are then added which are controlled by an AVR. These windings introduce an additional current into the core to saturate the core and thus limit the output voltage to the desired level.

There are several different transductor configurations.

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#6

Re: Generator Problem

10/12/2011 12:16 AM

Check the battery in your digital voltmeter.

Our maintenance man was baffled by 260 VAC indicated from a 120VAC receptacle until someone else measured the voltage using a different voltmeter.

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Re: Generator Problem

10/12/2011 11:22 AM

Isnt there supposed to be a bleeder resistor (high value) in that circuit somewhere to bleed off stray voltages? Seems like it got disconnected.

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