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Breaker Explanation

10/12/2011 6:04 AM

describing a breaker this way means what?

4 x 20A Mg Curve C (PCC 10KA)

4 x 20A- does this mean a 4pole 20amps breaker or?

mg curve C- Overload protection or ?

PCC 10KA- short circuit breaking capacity

Please i need someone with better understanding to explain.

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What is the difference between Curve C and Curve D

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Re: Breaker Explanation

10/12/2011 8:26 AM

4 x 20A -> 4Pole 20Amps

mg curve C -> Magnetic trip CURVE C

PCC 10KA-> its prospective short circuit current capacity (breaking capacity) .It is the important factor to be considered when choosing an MCB and this must always be greater than the prospective short-circuit current (PSCC) at the point where the MCB is installed.

What is the difference between Curve C and Curve D

the difference is in operating range of their magnetic trip unit. Its 3-5 times the rated nominal current (In) in B curve, 5-10 times in C curve & 10-14 times in D & K curve, 2.4-3.6 in Z curve, 9.4-14.4 times in MA trip curve.

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Type B MCBs react quickly to overloads, and are set to trip when the current passing through them is between 3 and 4.5 times the normal full load current. They are suitable for protecting incandescent lighting and socket outlet circuits in domestic and commercial environments, where there is little risk of surges that could cause the MCB to trip.

Type C MCBs react more slowly, and are recommended for applications involving inductive loads with high inrush currents, such as fluorescent lighting installations. Type C MCBs are set to trip at between 5 and 10 times the normal full load current.

Type D MCBs are slower still, and are set to trip at between 10 and 15 times the normal full load current. They are recommended only for circuits with very high inrush currents, such as those feeding transformers and welding machines.

for more on trip curves download this software from Schneider electric

schneider trip curves

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10/12/2011 10:37 AM

While I appreciate your explanation to the question, I fear your detailed infor on B, C & D MCBs isn't correct. It is mentioned that Type B MCBs are set to trip between 3 to 5 times the rated current. Does that mean that these MCBs would not react fore overloads. The statement should have been "set to trip 'instantaneously' when the current is 3 to 5 times the ratec current".

And, it is also mentioned that Type C & Type D MCBs are slower. Please note that as per IEC, there no change - I repeat - no change, in the overload charecteristic curves of all these three type sof MCBs and as such all three would behave exactly in similar manner for a given overloda.

The difference, then, is in their instantaneous or magnetic trip current settings, which is correctly mentioned by you.

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10/13/2011 12:46 AM

Mr EE,

you are right but when i was talking about overloads , i was talking about high value currents caused by short circuits. i.e the magnetic trip setting not the thermal trip setting. i should have mentioned it as short circuit itself instead of overload but you know sometimes overloads are due to short circuits. so i didn't elaborate on that .yes i know for fore overloads they have same thermal tripping characteristics . and type D and C are slower when tripping "instantaneously". i should have mentioned "instantaneous". i didn't. sorry for the confusion but thank you for pointing it out. Also a MA type MCB wouldn't trip on small overloads

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10/17/2011 12:33 PM

Thank you everyone for your contribution. I am very grateful. Least i forget what do u mean by MA type breaker?I'm guessing molded case breakers.

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10/24/2011 3:02 AM

MA type breakers are those breakers which have only Magnetic trip units and not thermal. They are applicable in motor application and hence the name "motor application" (MA). These type of breakers are designed for continuous duty at 65 degree celsius. Their magnetic tripping ranges from from 6-14 times the rated current for small current ratings(upto 100A), 9.4-14 times the rated current for larger current ratings(after 100A). A separate thermal relay must be used for motor overload protection.

MA type Trip units are usually used where there is requirement to withstand "large" starting currents for a small amount of time, so that there is no unnecessary tripping.

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