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How to Communicate Servo Drives with PLC

10/13/2011 3:12 AM

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In our Corrugator machine, there is Slitter Scorer unit which has very old technology used to move the tools via servo motors. Because of facing problems again and again, we have started working for installation of a separate PLC with program to move the tools for job set as within 10months; we would get a new unit but till that, we would have to run the existing unit. For this reason we need some suggestion how to communicate the servo drives with PLC. First I explain the current system;

Current system

As shown in picture, there is a communication module RS232/485 is used with which all 20 servo drives are connected in parallel. This module is then connected with a PC having machine program in MS DOS. During job set, PC sends pre-set position of tools and start/stop commands to drive via communication module.

New system

We want to install a PLC Allen Bradley "SLC 5/03" with I/O modules (currently available). Servo Drives and communication module would be remained the same. Now question is that which device should we use to build a communication between PLC to servo drives?

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Re: How to Communicate Servo Drives with PLC

10/13/2011 8:37 AM

The SLC 5/03 already has a DH485 port, so you wouldn't need an external device, but if you plan to expand your network or use an operator interface, you might want to try this.

About the logic, your programmer must be able to work with AB comm. instrutions or study them while the system is being installed.

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Re: How to Communicate Servo Drives with PLC

10/13/2011 3:53 PM

First thing in mind "compatibility". Consult or read manuals. See system architecture.

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Re: How to Communicate Servo Drives with PLC

10/13/2011 5:20 PM

Hi;

Great brochure, but I think he wants to keep all the old drives, wich are RS485; probably due to budget limitations; otherwise, it would be a very interesting project, to add an ethernet module to his PLC and start from "ground zero".

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Re: How to Communicate Servo Drives with PLC

10/13/2011 7:47 PM

1) Do I understand it properly that you intend to remove the PC and its DOS program and the existing communications module and replace them with a PLC which will be the master controller of all the drives?

2) Do you possess full documentation on the existing drive protocol so that someone can replicate the communications scheme ?

3) RS-485 is a physical transport layer for digital communication, a mule. Mules carry data. Mules do not pack or unpack data, nor interpret data. RS-485 is not a protocol (a set of communications rules).

Your proposed network will involve some communications protocol. Not all communications protocols went to kindergarten to learn to play well with others and most do not.

Allen Bradley's DH-485 might run on the physical RS-485 transport layer, but it is a full scale network with its own protocol, including token passing.

http://www.ab.com/en/epub/catalogs/12762/2181376/214372/1535907/3404063/index.html


Note the comment, "With RSLinx software installed on a PC, communication with other nodes on the network is possible." I suspect 'other nodes' is A-B talk for devices with protocols who don't play well with DH-485 because they aren't DH-485.

DH-485 is NOT the same as a programmable RS-485 port.

This is not unlike the situation with Profibus DP. The Profibus PA protocol uses RS-485, but no Profibus DP port can be used for anything but Profibus PA.

Unless your drives already talk the DH-485 network protocol, you will need some other comm module to accomplish this task.

4) Prosoft is a 3rd party supplier (an A-B partner) of communications modules for SLC platforms with various hardware ports (RS-485, for example) and protocols, including custom programmability.

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Re: How to Communicate Servo Drives with PLC

12/30/2011 2:29 PM

Hi Iris,

We have several modules which may help you communicate to your Servo motors. Depending on which ports you have available and what protocol the Servo motors use. Here's a few possiblities

USB to RS-485 http://www.icpdas-usa.com/products.php?PID=3809

Ethernet IP to Modbus RTU (RS-485) http://www.icpdas-usa.com/products.php?PID=3811

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