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Flash in Dry Type Transformer

10/21/2011 10:40 PM

Electrical flash occured in dry type transformer which have folowing specs:

01- connection type- Dyn11

02- 1600kVA , 6.6/0.42kV , 140/2199A

03- Zsc = 6.28%

Phase and earth fault time Overcurrent protection of HV side operated.LV winding of C phase observed melted.HV winding of same phase seems open.Megger (performed at 1kV) results are as follows:

1. HV (6.6kV) Phase to Ground around 8000MΩ

2. LV (400V) Phase to Ground around 340MΩ

3. LV (400V) Phase to HV (6.6kV) Phase around 8000MΩ

Normal running current of transformer before fault occurrence was about :

· HV (6.6kV) side current -18 to 20A

· LV (400V) side current - 200A

Kindly comments against following queries:

01-What could be the probable causes of electrical flash or fault in transformer?

02-if we assume that Phase C HV winding became open first then What would be its effect on HV side current and LV side current and voltage?

03-If it is assumed that insulation failure happened on LV side first causing interturn fault then what would be its effect on HV side voltage and current?

04-what could be the probable causes of fault on HV winding?

05-what could be the probable causes of fault on LV winding?

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Re: Flash in Dry type transformer

10/21/2011 11:28 PM

01-What could be the probable causes of electrical flash or fault in transformer?

You are very close to th answer. Most probable reason seems to be insulation failure.

02-if we assume that Phase C HV winding became open first then What would be its effect on HV side current and LV side current and voltage?

If Phase C HV winding open first, then in no case, there would be any melting on LV side. You draw a delta HV connection, and open a phase winding. You can yourself see that current increases on other phase (A & B) HV windings leading to overload and ultimately tripping on overcurrent/overload for these two phases.

03-If it is assumed that insulation failure happened on LV side first causing interturn fault then what would be its effect on HV side voltage and current?

Yes, it is the most probable cause i think. Why? because, if LV side C phase melts due to insulation failure (inter-turn fault), it would cause excessive current on the same phase HV and LV windings both due to mutual induction. HV side C phase might have got open due to burning at the weakest point. You can check the same.

04-what could be the probable causes of fault on HV winding?

HV side C phase might have got open due to burning at the weakest point

05-what could be the probable causes of fault on LV winding?

Insulation failure, ultimately leading to inter-turn fault.

One more thing, tell in detail about the tripping relay operation. is it numrical type? if it is then, on which phase overcurrent did it tripped? Phase A, B or C ?

That detail could throw some more light on the problem.

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Re: Flash in Dry type transformer

10/21/2011 11:57 PM

Thanks sir for your quick response

some pics have been attached for your analysis

What could be the probable causes of insulation failure?i think it could be due to manufacturing issue.Is there any possiblity of overvoltage on LV side causing insulation failure in our case?

Following protection relay of siemens has been installed:

SIPROTEC 7SJ80 Multifunctional Protection Device

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Re: Flash in Dry type transformer

10/24/2011 7:35 AM

Dear Mr. Shahzad,

It is seen that at the time of occurence of fault, the Trafo is only loaded about 10% of FLA; therefore question of Overloading does not arise. But you did not mention the type/nature of load ; i.e. the harmonic content or THD/THVD etc. High harmonic content in electrical loads may generate additional heating effect which may be harmful to epoxy insulation ( solid epoxy insulation has less expansion coefficient/ elasticity compared to liquid insulation like Transformer oil.). Also if epoxy insulation has some inherent defects like high porosity, due to passage of time, due to moisture ingress, final flashover may occur after initial formation of 'TREE FAULT'. This type of occurence of fault can only be diagonised during routine checking or condition monitoring of insulation of Transformer. The sample of insulation can be taken out to check porosity of epoxy insulations.

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10/24/2011 9:58 AM

Thanks for your valuable comments

Please have a look on the load of damaged transformer for your further analysis and comments:

01-400VAC supply for two 80kVA UPS

02-400VAC supply for one 120kVA UPS

03-Tranformers OLTC panels

04-Plant DB supplies

05-Small ventillation supplies

06-Airconditioner supplies

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Re: Flash in Dry type transformer

10/24/2011 5:01 PM

Hi Shahzad,

From the photographs it appears that the failure is most probably due to Partial discharge. This is the most common cause of CRT failure. The reason may be due to manufacturing fault .Blow holes or very fine crack or rough surface may result when the casting is done with improper vacuum. But during final test this could have been located but at times it escape notice of the Inspector..The insulation failure can also be a reason which happens because of accumulation of the dust and moisture and Poor road

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Re: Flash in Dry type transformer

10/22/2011 12:29 AM

01) short circuit caused it, possibility is away from transformer since it is epoxy cast, attribute the failure to not accurate setting of the protection relay.

02) HV will be open delta or "V" configuration, this could not cause flash. Still a dry type is epoxy set chances of this happening are very rare.

03) Voltage at healthy phase rise, cannot cause flash / meltdown, at the hv side unbalance will cause harmonics some heating, the protection relay should trip the CB. interturn fault is a rare possibility.

04) You are after a wild goose chase.

05) Again you are after a wild goose chase.

Bottom line is that the protection relay is there to isolate the T/F in case of fault, if the relays are accurately set, battery power sourcing is healthy to activate the relay and trip coil circuit of CB is functional the unit should not have melted.

check the battery, check that tripping schematic of CB is functional, confirm the relay settings, and each time when there is a tripping investigate the cause, carry out megger test and other test before putting back in servic - My observations are that you failed in this regard and over the period of time due to repeated stressing of the transformer time and again finally it said good be to you - a sad ending to the saga.

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10/22/2011 9:43 AM

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10/22/2011 12:09 PM

06-What will be the unbalanced loading effect on this transformer?

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10/22/2011 10:47 PM

Could it had been caused by a surge or switching?.

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10/23/2011 2:00 AM

It has not happened during surge or switching

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10/23/2011 4:57 AM

Shahzad,

Involving both windings simulataneously makes me think that the failure happened when there is a dead short circuit on LV side. This includes unsynchronised paralleling of generator connected to 400V SwB or failure of a large motor or a cable fault etc.

Due to limitations of design, the dry type transformers cannot handle the surges (current or voltage) that well when compared to conventional oil filled transformers.

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Re: Flash in Dry Type Transformer

10/23/2011 6:42 AM

raghun,Thanks for your comments,

To have precise analysis from your side,please i am going to share following comments:

01-there is no dead short circuit on LV side

02-No 400V generators are in facility

03-no large motor is the load of damaged transformer

04-No cable fault observed in the system

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Re: Flash in Dry Type Transformer

10/23/2011 9:24 PM

After looking at the pictures, there is not much melting of the windings, so let me retract my statement that the primary failed first.

The transformer failure could have been caused by corona.
Corona could be caused by transformer design, manufacture, damage, high altitude and overvoltage.

Sometimes solid insulation can withstand corona for long periods of time.

At higher altitudes the air density is less, so the air breaks down at a lower voltage.
Transformers users at high altitudes have more problems with transformers. This observation is from working with different customers and also from theory.

The transformer windings cannot be repaired, so check with the transformer manufacture to see if there is any problem with removing insulation in the area of the failure. (You may be surprised by the results of this failure analysis)

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Re: Flash in Dry Type Transformer

10/23/2011 10:24 PM

Following an invitation to reply to this thread, I offer the following.

First, I am not experienced with transformers in operation so anything that I offer is to be regarded as "opinion" and not informed response.

Secondly, the OP is insistent that there is no large external load and that the protection devices are correctly operational.

Thus we must conclude the failure happened "inside" the protected zone.

The fact that it is described as "instantaneous" and has created no "spectacular" failure outcomes lead me to suggest the following.

A failure on the secondary (probably caused by an unrestrained piece of debris) has created a significant internal load in the transformer that has then become apparent in the primary leading to phase protection to shut down that phase (and then subsequently the transfore went to 2 phase operation.)

The absence of long term scorching discoloration, the absence of "dripping" encapsulant and other symptoms is why I suggest this has been a short timeframe incident.

Such a failure would also leave all external wiring on secondary unaffected (since it never carried current the fault current) and the OP has not described anything external to the transformer as being at issue.

The primary wiring would have curried the instantaneous current, but since it is not concentrated into a winding was probably able to dissipate the losses.

Transformer core saturation may have provided some protection of the primary (reduced the impact) and it may be of benefit to verify that this portion of the transformer is also in good condition durign rebuild.

Again, I stress that I am not experienced with transformer construction or diagnosis and this advice is from my memory of tranformer theory more than 25 years ago.

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10/24/2011 4:36 PM

Further thought overnight has led to the following addition.

Harmonics in load may have been causing vibration/stress in the material of the secondary coils leading to decline in capability to maintain insulation effectiveness.

You mention UPS devices connected (and other items). I would recommend that you have a waveform analysis of current draw/voltage impact of each device independantly.

You may have a single device that has effectively fatigued the insulation in the secondary.

Again, I stress that I am not close to transformer instalation and diagnosis ..... etc.

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10/25/2011 2:54 AM

Thanks sir for your valuable comments

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10/25/2011 8:38 AM

Did you write to the manufacturer or supplier(agent)?.

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10/31/2011 7:35 AM

Dear Shahzad,

After waiting for several days I am still not able to get some possible good answers to your question.

I have been involved in the sales,installation,testing and commissioning and repairing of Cast Resin Transformers besides MV switchgears and oil transformers for the past 26 plus years.During the peak I was selling 78 CRT per year.Approx 5% of my business comes from emergency replacement of damaged CRT such as yours, manufactured by varous big and small names.I keep one of each 1.0,1.5,2.0,2.5 MVA 11/0.433KV DYn11,ex-stock even today.

Nobody or manufacturer can or willing to give you a definitive and direct answer to this kind of cast resin transformer failures.I was investigating one similar 2MVA CRT flash-over of a very reputable make with an elderly French gentleman with lots of experience in the design and manufacturing of CRT who had contributed to the drafting of IEC 726 that governs CRT and he too could not provide me with a good answer.

From your pictures I can say that your TX is HV coils resin casted in mold and LV coils is not resin casted but resin prepragnated (resin on craft paper sandwiching LV sheet conductor of Cu or Alum and resin filled / patched on the two ends of the completed LV coils.Both LV and HV coils have cooling/vetilation ducts.

The damaged LV coil is distorted and has melted resin indicating that it was experiencing great amount of heat or extreme temperature,most likely to be contributed by a huge current (fault current,KA ? ) flowing through that LV coil.Please observe carefully with a bright light such as thin tube light inserted into the gap between the HV and LV coils where you can see maximum/a lot of black carbonisation ,soot,or white/greyish burnt area/patch.Look for crack line,traces of condesation marks of copper vapour or aluminium (depending of the winding conductors).If you see these traces and signs,that was a inter-turn short circuit within the same winding.If do not see any crack on the surface and no vapourisation/condensation of copper/alum,just severe patch of burnt mark,then it is likely to be one hot spot in the LV winding without "breaking" through the surface.Please look for the same signs on the HV winding which is more likely to fail than the LV winding.

There are a number of reasons that can cause the HV winding to fail.Some examples are:1. Impuritities in resin,air bubbles in casted resin( in resin powder and fibre insulation cured in oven and molted resin casted in vacuum types of designs ),degeneration of pigment,sharp /bur of copper in winding material etc.Partial discharge test which is conducted in the factory should have less than 20 pico Columbs, pC. Such reading factory tests is about 5 to 10 pC in a good CRT.This is the best indication/test you can ask for and yet such CRT can fail over time( in 1 to 5 years ) after commissioning.Partial discharge,ionisation in insulating material including resin leads to carbonisation and eventual insulation failure in the winding.This can happen inside the solid resin casted winding.The life of cast resin transformers is about 30 to 40 years.Yours looks very new.

2.Frequent switching off of cast resin transformer with vacuum circuit breaker.During the opening of breaker,there is a high magnitue of chopping current,from CB that induces high transient voltage potential between the windings turns at the top and bottom ends of the HV coils.For example,in the case where cast resin Tx were used to supply the HV motor starter of large air condition compressors,and are switch on and off daily,many CRT of different makes failed.

3.windings' surface contamination of salt spray ( sea wind turbine installations ),carbon powder in steel mills,cement factory,fibres of testile factory have higher CRT failure rates.

All CRTs that comply to IEC 76 and 726 can be over loaded continously by 10% without damage.I have over loaded CRT to 40% for long period of time with force cooling fans.The Tx room must be well ventilated to max 40 degree C. Your CRT failed at very low load condition when the winding temperature is about 110/120 degree C ( my guess ).At 100% load it should be about 140/150 degree C and should trip at about 160 degree C.

I do not think there is anything wrong with your protection relays' settings,you can use your CRT at such low load without any Over current relay.Both OC and EF tripped as there must be a huge flash of current from live part to earth.It is unlikely to be cause by harmonics as the amplitude will not be big enough to cause any damage.There were no short ckt of main LV cables or bus ducts ?I seen two cases of short circuiting of main copper bus ducts (at joints ) that is connected to 1500KVA in one case and 3000KVA CRT in another case, both CRT were recomissioned without any damage.

Your CRT can be repaired by changing the damaged LV and HV coils.

Regards,

Khor.

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11/06/2011 1:23 AM

Lot of thanks sir for sparing time to compile your valuable times

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