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Effect of Low AC Voltage on Appliances

11/07/2011 9:34 AM

Good Day everyone!

Just a newbie in this site and I am looking for answers regarding some electrical conditions and problems I met at home. Hope someone could shed light on these areas.

1. What is the common cause of low ac voltage supply? I observed that my house connection has low ac voltage at night around 7 pm to 9 pm. It can only lit 2 light bulbs at home.

2. What could be the effect of low ac voltages to electrical appliances? Current meter reading during low voltage is below 100 V.

3. I tried using AC Automatic Voltage Regulator to solve this problem but my fuse repeatedly got busted. Currently it has a 3 A rating and my appliance specifically a refrigerator is rated .75 A. Why is it busted?

Thanks in advance...

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Re: Effect of Low AC Voltage on Appliances

11/07/2011 10:01 AM

A1: high load on an undersized supply.

A2: stuff conks out.

A3: the fuse is there to protect the WIRING.

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Re: Effect of Low AC voltage on Appliances

11/07/2011 10:07 AM

It sounds as if someone has installed a LynDoor Power Systems® WattSucker G-6. These are wildly popular in countries and locales where energy is cheap and plentiful.

These are, unfortunately, not removable after installation. To restore full and proper operation, you may need to order the LynDoor™ Remedial Power-Mizer. Don't be fooled by the ridiculous claims of other manufacturers. There are many who are trying to copy us, but there is nothing like the original!

Before you place your order, there may be another possibility... where are you from (what country and region)?

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11/07/2011 6:56 PM

I think he is using a power optimizer in conjunction with the free air compressor

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Re: Effect of Low AC Voltage on Appliances

11/07/2011 10:38 AM

The effects of low voltage on appliances that are not operating are negligible. The effects on operating appliances will depend on the definition of "appliance". If you are specifically concerned about the aforementioned refrigerator, there are things about your data that has me thinking you have trouble with reading or concepts. 0.75A assuming 115V would be roughly 70 watts, if you have a refrigerator that is only rated to use 70W, please post the name and model, because you have discovered a modern miracle! Either that or you are loosely defining "refrigerator" to include a can cooler.

Low voltage that happens only at night is typically a utility problem because they have some nearby large user who runs only at night, usually to take advantage of cheaper rates. If, as Doorman requested, you were to have included you general location and it was somewhere in the USA, then the utility would be in regulatory non-compliance if a 115V nominal supply was dipping to 100V on a continual basis. They are required to be +-5%. If you are somewhere else and there are no regulations, then good luck.

A voltage regulator for electronic loads such as computers is typically unsuitable for motor loads like the compressor of a refrigerator, although like I said, at 70W I doubt it has a compressor. But in general, anything with a motor on it is going to want no less than -10% of rated voltage, otherwise you run the risk of burning up the motor. Most modern things with switch mode power supplies, like computers, TVs, audio equipment etc., will likey have a greater tolerance for low voltage, but even they have a limit. However electronics typically just shut themselves off now.

If you are mischaracterizing when you have LV and it is more constant or random than just at night, then you should call a qualified electrician and have them check for a loose neutral connection somewhere.

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11/07/2011 8:07 PM

Thanks for your replies buddies... I am living outside US and our standard here is 220V. That means our appliances are rated for 220V operation.

I am now calling an electrician to check our connection status. Loose connection is my first theory to the cause of low voltage at night.

My current AVR rating is at 500W, if I change it to 1000W, will the fuse stop busting out?

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11/07/2011 11:10 PM

Yes, have your wiring connections checked by a licensed electrician. If the connections are ok, then the problem could be from your local electrical ultilty service.

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11/08/2011 9:20 AM

Less than half the rated voltage? You have a serious problem.

Call a licensed electrician.Loose connections, or improper wire size is very dangerous, due to overheating issues, and unpredictable voltages at various places in the circuits, depending on what is turned on.Never increase fuse size to prevent a fuse from working.It is there for a safety reason.The reason the refrigerator blows the fuse is because of rotor lag. Not going into details,but the motor sees the low voltage as an increase in load, and current draw actually increases, causing fuse to blow out.

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11/09/2011 8:23 AM
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The reason the refrigerator blows the fuse is because of rotor lag. Not going into details,but the motor sees the low voltage as an increase in load, and current draw actually increases, causing fuse to blow out.

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This is my theory too... Thanks for the idea...

Anyways, do you have any suggestion on an equipment that could help me compensate or protect my appliances for this sudden drop in voltage? Voltage is normal in daytime but low in night...

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11/09/2011 9:56 AM

Voltage regulators are not designed to cope with 100V from 220V supply, about 30% down is all one can expect from the best types. I am surprised anything, except a filament lamp or kettle, still works at 100V if it is rated for 220.

A supply theoretically gives less than the maximum possible power at 100/220 of proper voltage - applying more current will actually reduce the power available - job for an AVR is very hard!

Such a value is far below what is tolerable and indicates severe overload or fault beyond what the supplier should allow for safety and "supply law" reasons.

If you need to protect appliances, an undervoltage cut-out on sockets (not lights) could be used. You would have to make one from a motor contactor and undervolt relay and put them into the socket supply circuit.

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11/09/2011 1:31 PM

I agree, I doubt there is anything you can do to keep using your 220V appliances at 100V, your only option is to protect them by disconnecting them from the supply when that happens. In the case of your refrigerator, that means DON'T OPEN THE DOOR until your voltage returns to normal, or you will let out the cold air and spoil your food.

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