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AVR Changing with Different Type

12/19/2011 12:12 PM

hi all

I am planning to change an obsolete stamford avr (series 3 part number 450-11700) with datakom product avr 8 automatic voltage regulator for old 250 kva cummin generator set. this is because we need the generator working as soon as possible and we don't have the compatible avr at hand.(avr-8 can work with generator of this capacity)

The problem is that the stamford avr get the supply from the permanent magnet generator at the end of the alternator and sensing voltage from the main stator.but since the datakom avr don't support the permanent magnet generator i am planning to use the datakom avr without the permanent magnet generator out put connected with only the sensing from the main stator out put (which also used as supply for the avr) and by connecting the excitation terminal connected to the excitation out put of the avr.

Will it work properly?

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Re: AVR Changing with Different Type

12/19/2011 4:21 PM

Can you post the wiring schematic diagrams from the old and new unit? What is the model number of the generator ?

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Re: AVR Changing with Different Type

12/19/2011 10:44 PM

Assuming that the rating of the inputs and outputs are compatible you should have a normally functioning self-excited generator. What you won't have is the benefit that a separately-excited generator offers, namely voltage support during system transients such as starting large loads or during short circuit conditions. Under these circumstances the power source for your AVR and consequently the field excitation, namely the terminal voltage of your generator, will be subject to the same dips and swings that the generator experiences. And what is the generator terminal voltage during a close in fault- zero- meaning that the AVR cannot provide any field current.

So now you know what the advantage of a separately powered excitation system is, that the PMG provides excitation power regardless what the terminal voltage is doing. Only you know if that's important to the proper operation of your system.

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Re: AVR Changing with Different Type

12/21/2011 11:51 AM

thankyou all
I have replaced the avr and it is working well.
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