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Neutral to Ground Voltage

01/04/2012 2:46 PM

Dear Friends,

I have a 3 phase generator make CATERPILLAR, which is supplying to a weigh bridge. when we start this generator, Weigh Bridge Amplifier shows little fluctuations in the reading. I connected one stabilizer also, but result was same. So I decided to check voltage between Neutral and Ground, it showed 9V. One important thing, I have a fuse connected to neutral of the control circuit. When I start this generator, This fuse blows off for the first time. But when fuse replaced with little higher capacity, it works fine. But after some days, This higher capacity fuse also burns. Please tell me, is there any link between this fuse burning and the voltage between Neutral and Earth.

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Re: Neutral to Ground Voltage

01/04/2012 10:00 PM

How far from the generator did you make your measurements? You are have a difference because you have current flow in the neutral. Is the any phase to neutral loads? I would measure the neutral current flow. I
do have a problem with a fuse in the neutral. If you do have loads connected to the neutral and the fuse blows, you could have high voltage on the loads.

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Re: Neutral to Ground Voltage

01/05/2012 3:41 AM

A voltage between neutral and earth is simply the expression of the neutral current, which is the vector sum of the currents in the three phases, multiplied by the earth loop impedance.

Most wiring codes do not permit a fuse between neutral and earth. That the one that is fitted blows indicates a safety issue, in that somewhere downstream there is a connection between neutral and earth that, were it to be left uncorrected, presents a safety hazard in the event of a fault occurring.

Do not use the generator until the fault has been detected and rectified.

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Re: Neutral to Ground Voltage

01/06/2012 2:03 AM

Sure...I agree with comments from PWSlack and Wareagle.

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Re: Neutral to Ground Voltage

01/10/2012 2:20 PM

Dear Sirs,

Thanks for your kind co operation, but I forgot to write you that I have 3 generators which is supplying to same set of loads. But they are working one at a time. Their neutrals are shorted together with a single busbar.

Now when I checked voltage between Neutral and Earth for other two generators, say A & B, it remains zero. But when I use third generator say 'C', fuse connected to control wiring at load side blows off. I measured the voltage between Neutral and Earth for this generator and I observed that this voltage is increasing gradually. Last week it was 10V, and this week it increased to 11V.

When other two generators A or B, operates the same load, then voltage between Neutral and earth remains zero.

I personally feel that if load balancing is the problem which is causing neutral current to flow, then I should face this problem with other two generators also.

I am trying to check generator 'C' alone without load (single phase or 3 phase), to check voltage exist between Neutral and Earth.

Please tell If I find that voltage exist between Neutral and Earth without load then what should I do? It is a 10 Wires Star connected 1000 KVA CATerpiller Generator.

Thanks.

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Re: Neutral to Ground Voltage

01/12/2012 11:46 AM

1. check your star point becaz if phase unbalacing is occured then why not triping equipments are working

2. change the star i.e open your star and make the opened ends star

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