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Weld Joint Strength Reduction Factor for Carbon Steel

01/15/2012 10:10 AM

Dear sir,

Can anyone tell me why is it that ASME B31.3 2010 does not cover the weld joint strength reduction factor for carbon steel materials? Does it mean I should use W = 1 when the temperature is below 427 deg C? But what values can I use for temperature above 427 deg C?

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Re: Weld joint strength reduction factor for carbon steel

01/15/2012 11:05 AM

The author should know...It may be exempt, which means W= 1 for all calculations...

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01/15/2012 11:42 AM

Dear sir,

Can you provide a references as to where in the code it says CS are exempted? Lots of people also say it is exempted, but I cannot find any concrete references in ASME B31.3. The only thing I can find was in the interpretation section, where the ASME board says "ASME B31.3 does not provide weld joint strength reduction factor to Carbon steel material", but that in itself does not tell me CS are exempted?

So if you can tell me where in the code you saw this exemption from, I will appreciate it. Thank you.

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01/15/2012 1:16 PM

Has ASME give an Interpretation yet?

I would presume that "ASME B31.3 does not provide weld joint strength reduction factor to Carbon steel material", does indicate an exemption, unless the body exactly interprets otherwise.

I have noticed some specs, API, for example, that are becoming ambiguous, as they try to conform with EU Standards.

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01/15/2012 1:24 PM

This is why I indicated that the author should know, why don't you contact the author and ask him...You will find the author's name and contact info at the beginning of the code...

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01/15/2012 2:28 PM

The parent metal already has a strength reduction factor for elevated temperatures; apparently the weld simply inherits this factor with no need for a further factor.

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01/15/2012 3:38 PM

Just really common sense isn't it???? GA

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Re: Weld Joint Strength Reduction Factor for Carbon Steel

01/16/2012 1:30 AM

As per ASME B31.3, Para. 302.3.5(e), the Weld Joint Strength Reduction Factor,W is equal to 1; unless at elevated temperatures, the long-term strength of weld joints may be lower than the long-term strength of the base material, and in this case W can be determined by Table 302.3.5 for temperatures above 427 oC.

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02/05/2012 1:51 AM

I think there is another way to look at this.

A reason why carbon steel is not on that table is because the code does not recommend using carbon steel above 800F. So in that sense, the strength reduction factor at elevated temperature does not apply to CS material. And thus the reduction factor should stay as 1.

Just my 2 cents

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