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High Energy Magnetic Sheet

03/09/2012 4:25 PM

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In a recent post, I asked regarding magnetic sheet materials, and since then I have more information. I am still looking for a source (with no luck) and hoping someone has or can find a lead.

[Since the last episode, from your leads, I did research some known sources, but with no results. Most who supply sheet magnets, sometimes called 'rubber magnets' cater mostly to signage, and their materials are lower energy.]

I found a sample of the material from my old archives and offer some pictures here:

These two views show the striations in the magnetic material

In my own testing, I mounted this piece (about 5cm x 12cm ; about 2in x 4.75in) to a piece of plywood, and a piece of galvanized sheet steel (generic, from the hardware store) to another piece. The magnetic material is about 1.3mm (0.050in) thick, and the steel is about 0.3mm (0.013in) thick.

I rigged some handles and weights (zip loc bags with water ) and added weight and did static lifting. I gave up at 10 pounds with no failures (sorry, no pics of the duct tape and bags ).

Bottom line, the material has several times the energy as the signage-type materials. Assuming the performance is linear, that says the holding power is greater than 1 lb / 1 sq.in.

Any thoughts on where I might find this material, or ideas how to search would be GREATELY appreciated.

Thanks in advance, and Kind Regards ...

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Re: High Energy Magnetic Sheet

03/09/2012 6:05 PM

Have you looked at mu-metal? It has an extremely high permeability.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mu-metal

You can buy it different places. Here's an ebay site selling it:

http://compare.ebay.com/like/180779300858?var=lv<yp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar&_lwgsi=y&cbt=y

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Re: High Energy Magnetic Sheet

03/09/2012 6:16 PM

Are you sure?

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03/09/2012 8:40 PM

Ummmm - I meant as an alternate for the sheet being attracted to the magnet; not for the magnetic sheet itself.

/Nevermind...

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03/09/2012 8:47 PM

How about this: Up to 144 lbs/sq foot; that would 1lb/sq inch:

http://www.adamsmagnetic.com/flexible-magnets/flexible_magnetic_sheets.php

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03/09/2012 9:14 PM

Seems sheet thickness is the problem. Adams 144 lb/sq foot rated sheet is 0.060" thick.

Their 0.030" (≈0.75mm) sheet is rated at 85 lb/sq foot (about 0.6 lbin-2)

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03/09/2012 7:50 PM

You have surely tried McMaster-Carr? They have some material they describe the "Holding Power: Very Low", but some of the 1/16" thick has about 1.5#/sq in.

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03/09/2012 8:10 PM

Best I could find (within this timeframe):

http://www.anchormagnets.co.uk/magnetic-sheet-c-1.html

Their 0.75mm (0.03") sheet has a pull strength of 56gcm-2 (0.8 lbin-2)

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03/10/2012 4:45 PM

Actually, if you do, you'll end up with a lot of fragmented or bent neodymium magnets.

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03/10/2012 5:20 AM

I am aware of the best company that makes top end magnetic sheets is Vacuumschmelze, Germany. It is called VAC for short. It is a US $500 million big, about 80 to 90 year old, ex Siemens group company- making exotic magnetic materials & systems. Go to www.vacuumschmelze.com

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03/10/2012 7:57 AM

Try these folks I have used them for several years. www.kjmagnetics.com KJM magnets Inc.

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Re: High Energy Magnetic Sheet

03/21/2012 8:51 AM

Hi to all,

Sorry to be silent and long in my response to you all, but I have been traveling.

All your responses were helpful, and some in particular are leading me closer to a solution.

Sincere thanks to all, and kind regards ...

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