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Stray Current/Voltage

03/11/2012 1:19 PM

One of the best ways to correct stray voltage problems in livestock buildings is to stop current flow on the grounding system from both the Primary and Secondary source. First of all for the Primary side, we must install a Dairyland Isolator to stop all Primary Neutral return current from traveling onto the Secondary Neutral to the grounding system. Second, use a 4 wire system that includes a ground return wire along with the feed wires from the transformer to every service panel on the livestock farm. The secondary neutral must be only grounded once at the transformer pole. Bonding of the secondary neutral to the grounding system at the panels is removed and replaced by this ground return wire that connects the grounding system at each panel back to the transformer secondary neutral. We now have a system that stops both Primary and Secondary neutral current from traveling on the grounding system, at the same time providing a safe path for any fault current back to the transformer.

I believe in bonding all metal objects back to the electrical system for our safety but at the same time there should not be any current traveling on the grounding system until fault current occurs.

At some livestock farms I have detected a significant amount of Primary Neutral current traveling on the grounding system(10-20 m amps AC) with both lines to the transformer disconnected at the road ( Primary and Primary Neutral ) This was found to be Primary Neutral current from the local distribution system that was using earth as a return path, this can also cause problems for for livestock operations and very hard to deal with.

It is the current that does the damage not the voltage

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03/11/2012 2:22 PM

I'm no expert here, but without current, there's no potential for electrical movement.

And moisture plays a role, too.

The fine art of wiring for zero corrosion is over my head.

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03/11/2012 4:17 PM

When you remove the potential(voltage) you have no current flow or electrical movement. This topic has more to do with livestock housing than corrosion.

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03/11/2012 4:26 PM

Oh. The last time I had contact with a cow, I was milking it by hand, in a wooden barn.

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03/11/2012 9:48 PM

Thing are much different now with all the electrical equipment in use and the bonded metal housing to contain the livestock.

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03/12/2012 4:50 AM

Well, then, there will be established standards for this sort of thing. The reason you are not following them would be of interest.

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03/11/2012 4:45 PM

When cattle are involved an Uffer grounding system should be considered. All the floor area and building structure is tied to the same potential, eliminating voltage gradients.

Look for Uffer grounding on Google.

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03/11/2012 5:58 PM

The name of the subject you want study here is "equipotential (grounding) plane".

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03/11/2012 10:19 PM

You say "First of all for the Primary side, we must install a Dairyland Isolator..." - do you have any interest to declare regarding Dairyland Electric Industries?

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03/11/2012 10:37 PM

Good catch.

Back to the OP. Well????????

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03/11/2012 11:21 PM

The Dairyland isolator is the best isolation device that we have available only through the utilities.

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03/11/2012 10:26 PM

Do not confuse stray currents from ground currents. Stray currents imminate from currents not related to ground currents per se but from galvanic action through electrolytes from other sources. Galvanic corrosion is not the same a stray current corrosion.

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03/11/2012 11:57 PM

If you're selling something, you should head over to the commercial section-this is the area for getting questions answered, not selling stuff.

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03/12/2012 6:57 AM

I understand that California does not allow the utilities their to use earth as a return path for Primary Neutral current as the case in a multi-grounded Primary Neutral distribution system

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03/12/2012 9:42 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthing_system gives details, Lorne. If it's a farm, it's probably supplied with power by overhead line, in which case the installation will be TT and your understanding is not applicable.

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03/12/2012 10:33 AM

Current and voltage by nature are always together, and one cannot exist without the other... If you want to minimize the stray current hazard, (i.e., limit it in the micro-ampere range instead of the present present hazard of several milliamperes), you need to install a very good low leakage 1:1 isolation transformer. Units that have a maximum leakage current of 200 micro-amperes or below should be good for your application. Since it may possibly be very cost prohibitive to isolate the whole area, you may apply selectively and individually the isolation approach to those equipment that were verified to cause the high leakage currents hazards..

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03/12/2012 11:42 AM

Reminds me of that song "SHOCK the MONKEY"

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