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Steam Bypass System for Turbine

05/11/2007 9:20 AM

I want to make design for steam bypass for turbine to prevent steam enter to the turbine and so on by using by pass line around it [ using steam conditioning valve ] to reduce its pressure and temperature to the state of the condenser .

exmple: your turbine has got trip for 20 minutes the by pass will work ok. the inlet condition to the by pass is 43 bar & 390 C , ok wanted to reduce this pressure to 4bar.

the question is is there is one aconditioning steam valve or pressure reducing valve can reduce the pressure from 43 to 4 bar ? or we must use more than one?

and what about using such as one valve [steam conditioning or pressure reducing] and then putting orifice plates which have many small nozzles?

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Re: Steam Bypass System for Turbine

05/12/2007 8:58 AM

Check CCI at www.ccivalve.com for turbine bypass and steam conditioning. They have a vast array of steam conditioning/turbine bypass valves and I am sure they can solve your problem using one bypass valve.

Orifice plates are only effective at full flow. They do not contribute significantly to pressure drop at lower flows and are not always the best solution in modulating service like Turbine Bypass.

Good luck.

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Re: Steam Bypass System for Turbine

05/14/2007 5:13 AM

It has been done in the industry to by-pass turbines directly to the condenser, by using a series of multiple orifice plates and a control valve in series. Calculations should be performed to eliminate cavitation and be careful with the distribution of the flow inside the condenser as to avoid vibration and ensure proper mixing (as fluid might flash over). Also make sure that the by-pass line/system can be properly isolated from the main steam header (isolation valve with equalizing by-pass), as any leakage of this system during full turbine operations will cause loss of performance and efficiency.

Good luck

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Re: Steam Bypass System for Turbine

05/14/2007 10:40 AM

firstly I want to thank about your helping to me .

but I want to ask you to avoid the distribution of the flow that is by using the dumb tube at the latest stage before the nick of the condenser is not it?!

and thank you so much.

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Re: Steam Bypass System for Turbine

05/14/2007 11:25 AM

Sorry, I cannot help you here as condensers and turbine configurations vary and I am not sure of your question.

You will also need to be sure that the condenser design will be able to dissipate the additional heat and load that you suddenly expose it to as well as to avoid over-pressurisation.

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Re: Steam Bypass System for Turbine

05/14/2007 10:32 AM

firstly I want to thank you for your helping in my problem.

which I understood from your reply that orifice plates are not used in steam by pass turbine because it did not give accurately reduction to pressure at part loads that it is difficult to be controlled, however the valve trim can be controlled to give the right number of orifices as it should to be on.

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Re: Steam Bypass System for Turbine

05/14/2007 12:09 PM

This is the case when the turbine trip and you want to dump all the flow of steam to the condenser instead of venting it to atmosphere via safety valves.

Reply #1 was from a different source, however, I would suggest that you 1st dissipate most of the pressure through a serious of orifice plates and then through a control valve that can handle large pressure drops (cavitation tolerant trim). As reply #1 suggested/mentioned, at low flow the orifice plates contribute very little or nothing to the pressure drop and it will be the valve that initially sees these high pressure drop conditions.

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