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Ultrasonic Flowmeters

11/20/2012 1:00 AM

Hi,

I am using ultrasonic flow meters for two different applications.

One application is flow measurement on flare gas header and other one is flow measurement for cooling water service.

I had asked for clamp-on type flow meters for both applications.

But vendor has offered clamp-on type only for cooling water service and has offered insertion type for flare line by saying that its more suitable.

He has not given any technical clarification for it.

Could anyone tell me why its not appropriate to use clamp-on type for gas measurement?

Also, I doubt why if these sound waves (ultrasonic waves) partially reflect back from the pipe surface , how this is considered while measuring the flow?Is it dampened?

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Re: Ultrasonic flowmeters

11/20/2012 1:46 AM

"Could anyone tell me why its not appropriate to use clamp-on type for gas measurement?"

There is hardly any comparison/presentation available on the merits/demerits. You have to decide taking into account the ground realities/convenience of measurements etc.

"....how this is considered while measuring the flow?"

Surely the manufacturer must have made some provisions for this.

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Re: Ultrasonic flowmeters

11/20/2012 3:16 AM

Simple. Ideally, there will be nothing in the flue gas from which one might obtain a bounce-back signal from the ultrasonic pulse, and because of this, the equipment will not give a flow reading.

Consider a vortex-shedding meter for the flue gas instead. Either that, or differential pressure across a Pitot tube.

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11/20/2012 10:34 AM

I think the OP refers to flare gas, not flue gas. This is the flammable gas sent to a flare for safe release to the atmosphere, not exhaust gas from a furnace:

Flare gas flow measurement is especially challenging due to the high turndown requirements and the variable gas composition. Here is a sampling of different flowmeters and why they don't work particularly well for flare gas:

  • Orifice/venturi/Pitot tube: calibration affected by gas density (variable), plus poor turndown due to square-root characterization
  • Vortex: low-flow cutoff makes the meter read zero at low flow rates (i.e. poor turndown ratio)
  • Thermal mass: calibration affected by specific heat of the gas (variable)
  • Turbine: potentially high temperatures, also affected by swirl

At the oil refinery where I used to work, we tried a thermal mass meter on the main flare line, with extremely poor results. If you can put a thermal mass flowmeter on each line feeding the flare header (where you have a more consistent composition to calibrate each flowmeter) and then sum up all the individual line measurements to achieve a total, you might get a workable solution. The economics of this approach of course varies with the number of process streams dumping into the flare header.

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11/20/2012 10:23 AM

There are two basic types of ultrasonic flowmeter: Doppler and Transit-Time. Both types of ultrasonic flowmeter work by "pinging" a sound wave pulse into the fluid flow -- it's what they do with the result that differs. Doppler flowmeters detect echoes off of any particulate matter or bubbles in a liquid flow stream, the frequency shift of the echoed wave compared to the original pulse indicating the velocity of the object. Transit-time flowmeters use pairs of transducers sending sound wave pulses back and forth diagonal to the flow direction, comparing the time-of-flight for the sound wave going upstream (against the flow) versus downstream (with the flow). The difference in time is directly proportional to fluid velocity. Only transit-time ultrasonic is suitable for gas flows; Doppler can't detect a flowing gas because there's nothing in the gas stream big enough to *reflect* a sound wave.

Now, on to your question about clamp-on meters: there are inexpensive, and (as always) you generally get what you pay for. One of the chief problems with clamp-on meters is poor acoustic coupling between the ultrasonic transducer and the fluid stream. Even if you manage to get good coupling between the transducer and the pipe wall (which involves careful placement of the transducers plus a gel to enhance conduction of the sound wave), there is the problem of "ringing around the pipe" where the sound waves may ripple around the circumference of the pipe to the second transducer rather than go through the fluid inside the pipe.

Insertion-style ultrasonic meters have their transducers embedded in the flowtube itself, so that the tube wall is neither a barrier to the sound nor an unintentional acoustical path for the sound to skirt the flow. With gas flows, you need all the help you can get achieving good acoustical coupling with the gas, which is one reason why your vendor is saying the insertion type is more suitable.

There's another good reason why a clamp-on ultrasonic meter would be unsuitable for flare service (even if you could get a strong ultrasonic signal through the gas) and that's because clamp-on meters are single-path devices. In order to get good accuracy measuring gas flows through a very wide range of Reynolds number (i.e. excellent turndown) you need to take transit-time measurements of velocity through multiple paths in the pipe. This is called a "multi-path" or "multi-chord" ultrasonic flowmeter, now becoming popular for measuring the flow of natural gas according to the AGA9 standard in America. As you might guess, these are very expensive -- the latest quote I've heard is $2000 US per inch pipe diameter. Here's what one looks like:

In addition to the need for multi-path measurement, you'll also need to measure the flowing pressure and temperature of the flare gas, because just measuring velocity doesn't tell you how much gas quantity (in mass units of standard volumetric units) you've got flowing through the pipe. This requires more sensors and a flow computer, all of which raises the cost.

An alternative to ultrasonic for flare flow measurement is the relatively new technology of optical flowmeters. The claims made for these meters are impressive (turndown ratios of 1000:1 or better!), and the technology itself is intriguing. Here is one such product, designed specifically for flare gas flow measurement:

http://www.photon-control.com/opticalflowmeters.html

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11/23/2012 3:58 AM

Hi Tony,

I really appreciate your elaborated answer.

My vendor GE has offered for multi path measurement with clamp on type flow meters.

So I dont think that is constraint for using clamp on type.

May be as you specified pipe barrier may be a problem with acoustic waves.

How it is avoided in Liquid measurement then?

How it is avoided in Liquid measurement then?

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11/28/2012 6:11 PM

Sound waves reflect off of any interface between materials with different speeds of sound. The greater the difference in sonic velocity between the two media, the more of that signal will be reflected by the interface. The speed of sound through any substance is proportional to the square root of bulk modulus divided by density: the greater the bulk modulus of the substance (i.e. the less compressible it is), the higher the speed of sound through it.

You can think of the interface between a metal pipe wall and the fluid within the pipe as such a reflector. The speed of sound through steel is very fast compared to the speed of sound through a gas, especially a low-pressure gas such as flare gas. Therefore, much of the acoustic energy emitted by the ultrasonic transducer gets reflected back to the transducer at the inner pipe wall, and never makes it into the gas stream. Whatever sound energy does make it through to the gas stream gets reflected again when it encounters the pipe wall on the other side. The result is very little signal received by the opposite transducer.

This is why ultrasonic flowmeters designed for gas service have transducers that penetrate the pipe wall, so that the sound does not have to pass through a metal pipe (and therefore suffer reflection) before reaching the flowing gas. Take a look at any diagram or photograph of an AGA9 gas ultrasonic flowmeter and you'll see what I mean.

Liquids have much greater sonic velocity than gases, because of their vastly higher bulk moduli. So, when there's liquid inside a pipe rather than gas, there is less difference between the speed of sound through the metal pipe and the speed of sound through the liquid, resulting in less reflection at the pipe wall and therefore more sonic energy transferred through to the flowing liquid.

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Re: Ultrasonic Flowmeters

11/20/2012 10:46 AM

Just found an informative whitepaper on flare gas flow measurement, which does a good job describing the advantages of insertion-style transit-time ultrasonic flowmeters:

http://www.cbeng.com/resources/whitepaper/Flare_Measurement_Prov_Reg.pdf

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11/21/2012 3:19 AM

to insert ultrasonic is for accuracy and security depending on your location.

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Re: Ultrasonic Flowmeters

11/22/2012 5:32 AM

Flow measurement of flare gas is is a tricky application that you need to get right. There are ultrasonic flare gas meter options, in particular see http://www.fluenta.com/

Insertion mass flow meters are another option, possible suppliers being Kurz instruments http://www.kurz-instruments.com/index.htm

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11/22/2012 6:05 AM

Coincidentally, just read about the following which could be used for Flare Gas Monitoring:

http://www.sagemetering.com/sage-rio.php

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Re: Ultrasonic Flowmeters

11/22/2012 12:45 PM

Hi,

One application is flow measurement on flare gas /next for cooling water service.

Technically density is the clarification to your question, because the water will reaction differently to inserted probe then gas on the probes.

Note: using ultrasonic flow meters for two different applications it also depends on the products. [Kurz, Fluenta & GE Panametric]

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11/26/2012 3:03 PM

Clamp-on ultrasonic flow meters are not used in flare gas applications for several reasons:

Clamp-on transit-time meters operate based on Snell's law (refraction). Sound waves will change direction as they transit from one medium to another as a function of the soundspeed (C) in these different mediums, and the sine (SIN) of the angle that the ultrasonic signal is introduced to the medium:

Cpipe/SINpipe = Ctransducer/SINtransducer = Cgas/SINgas

So, if the signal is introduced to the pipe at an angle of 45 degrees to the pipe wall (for example), the angle that the signal travels through the pipe wall will be something other than 45 degrees (where the pipe soundspeed is different that the transducer soundspeed). Also, the angle will most certainly be very different through the gas, as the soundspeed of the gas will be considerably lower than either the transducers, or the pipe material.

Example soundspeeds:

CS pipe soundspeed ~3200 m/s

Gas soundspeed ~400 m/s

Transducer soundspeed ~2450 m/s

A typical soundspeed for flared gas in a plant environment may be around the 400 m/s range. However, this soundspeed can vary dramatically depending on the gas composition, and on the temperature and pressure. It may be 350 m/s at one moment, or 450 m/s at another, depending on upsets in the plant.

If you crunch the numbers into the equation above, you will arrive at angles through the process (the gas) that will be around maybe 5 - 6 degrees.

So, the first problem you are faced with is that there will be very little axial separation of the upstream and the downstream transducers (the transducers will be almost directly opposite each other, but on opposite sides of the pipe). To appreciate what this means, imagine the transducers were exactly opposite each other; there would be zero time-differential between the upstream transmission and the downstream transmission (at any flow velocity up to infinity). The smaller the time-differential, the greater the inaccuracy. The interrogation angle with wetted (inserted) transducers is typically 45 degrees (sometimes 60 degrees, or even higher), so the time-differential is much much greater. And, there is NO change in the signal angle due to refraction.

The second problem is signal attenuation. With clamp-on flow meters, the signal attenuation just getting through the pipe wall is huge. The amount of sound energy left, after transiting through the first pipe wall, is about 0.007% of what the initial energy was. Square that value to see what energy is left due to the second pipe wall, after the signal has transited across the gas. If the density of the gas increases, this helps us. The soundspeed increases, and the angle widens. However, the density does not increase enough unless the pressure increases dramatically (the last thing you want in a flare application). That is why reputable clamp-on gas meter manufacturers specify minimum gas pressure requirements, and will not use them in flare applications. Enough said.

The third problem is blow by. At extreme velocities (flare applications during plant upsets and emergency flares), the ultrasonic signal can be pushed past or blown by the receiving transducer; and never heard from again (pardon the pun). That is another reason for increasing the angle. The greater the separation of the transducers, the bigger the angle becomes and the greater the tolerance to this blow by effect. However, this is a balancing act between improving the tolerance to blow by, and not creating such a long measurement path that the signal attenuates to nothing.

Multi-path meters:

Multi-path transit-time meter designs can sometimes be used for flare applications. However, most of the traditional multi-path meter manufacturers have minimum pressure requirements for their meters (usually a couple of hundred PSI or greater), which eliminates them as candidates for flare measurement. But, with a well designed meter, a single path (in some cases two paths may be required - one for low velocity, and one for high) ultrasonic meter is very capable of providing good measurement accuracy that will meet regulatory compliance at both low velocities (no flare) and extreme velocities (up to 120 m/s). Most jurisdictions require +/- 5% measurement inaccuracy for flares.

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