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How Frictional Force Effects a Bullet While Spinning And Non-Spinning

11/24/2012 3:23 AM

when a bullet is travelling at great speeds, how will be the frictional and drag forces on the bullet while considering it spinning and then non-spinning. to my knowledge i feel that spinning bullet shows less drag and friction than non-spinning, as we know that the rolling friction is always less than static friction.

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11/24/2012 3:29 AM

You are right.

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11/24/2012 3:42 AM

do the same principle apply when the fluid is water instead of air ?

do the spinning bullet undergoes less drag and friction ?

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11/24/2012 4:00 AM

I think same principle will not apply when the fluid is water instead of air. Water has lot of resistance & hydrodynamics will decide.

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11/24/2012 4:23 AM

am i wrong if i take the following line as reference..

a screw needs less force than hammering a Nail into a solid block !

if not a screw, even in case of nail it will easily penetrate into a semi-solid while twisting...

but i'm still in a dilemma how spin will work regarding forces under water.

could you please clarify it to me sir...

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11/24/2012 8:24 AM

Within a very short time, the spin should stop due to the resistance of water.

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11/24/2012 4:32 AM

i can't give you a diffinative answer. rotational spin only stabilizes the bullet.. in theory,, one benitifit of the inertia energy that is used to stabilize the bullet would detract from propelled speed.

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11/24/2012 7:56 AM

i'm wrong. the energy needed to rotate the bullet was spent in rifle barrel.

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11/24/2012 4:15 PM

wen the bullet leaves the barrel it has energy in two forms: as kinetic energy due to its velocity in axial direction ans a second enrgy due to the rotation imposed during its travel in the barrel. The first is mv²/2 and the second is Jω²/2. In its movement in the air 2 friction occur since the combination axial + rotational movement leads to a complex air (or fluid ) pattern around the bullet. You can NOT compare with friction between solid bodies separated by a thin lubricant layer. It is totally DIFFERENT. As it was already mentioned spin is induced only to stabilize via a gyroscopic effect the bullet on its path. This has a positive aspect with respect to drag reduction because the bullet presents the smallest area to the air and it is known that drag force is proportional to frontal area.

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