Australia Natural Gas Liquefaction

What exactly is your point? What do you think is the connection between LNG export and the electricity costs?

On the fun side: You can not export LNG from a none existent "liquefaction" (?) plant.

Make your point clear so an Aussie can answer correctly!

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/australia-to-lead-lng-market-by-2017-with-liquefaction-capacity-expected-to-reach-124-million-tons-by-2017-181815421.html

My point should be obvious. Please continue. Oh, wait, Australia has several operating LNG liquefaction facilitys. Please Goggle (luch it up).

I blame my missspelling on Kindl fier.

Sorry, I dont get your point. The export has nothing to do with high electricity costs.

Did you actually research how much electricity is made using natural gas in Australia? You already know that liqifaction is just the solution to the transport of the gas and nothing else?!

Furhter if you have enough of gas you certainly will export it. Again your point is not clear.

You have been asking for an opinion and yet have offered none.

What is your take on this? Where do you think is the connection?

I think the answer you get from the Ozzies is that electricty cost is to high (as everybody else in any other country will tell you) and that the LNG market is keeping the economy uprightor even gives it a downright boost.

What is your point?

Liquefaction - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Liquefaction of gases - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Got it!

To move methane, you must compress it or make it liquid. Hoop stress calculations will tell you how thick you need a compressed gas tank for 3000 PSI that is 1000 feet long and 200 feet in diameter. (if it ever broke, it might make orbit?).

To make it liquid takes energy, the Australians must sell it or throw it away, so they use some of it to run the plant that makes it liquid and sell the liquid in large LPG ships.

click on these, read on

LPG ships

I have a good understanding of the process. My brother works for air products. Some of you touched on my point, which is as a consumer, I would be pissed to pay more for my electricity than someone in Japan. I am afraid that the global market will lead the US to cash in and then I will be playing house husband (because my chemical company employer will lay me off) while my wife rakes in the big bucks working in oil and gas. Hey, maybe that will be a good thing. Please forgive typos as I have moved to the phione.

Well, you better ask an Ozzie why and if he is willing to pay more money for the daily beer. You have a very mood point there, because the most people in Ozzie Land dont even know what electricity prices are in Japan or anywhere else in the world. There will be always a place somewhere in the world where things are cheaper than where you are.

Scrap the I-Phone. It does not make one smarter.

There are several ways to liquify NG. Cooling by evaporation adds to the process, where the "vented" gases can fire power generators. Just like the tanker uses vented product:

1. to keep the LNG cold (or read liquid)

2. to power the ship engines.

How about exporting as Methanol

--to allow the world to convert to DME and save Oil/LPG/Diesel

And Australian vastly scattered communities use such DME to operate small Gas Turbine Gensets at night - when PV has sun set.

The Aussies have recently elected a Socialist Government. Like the US, they are terminating coal fired plants and have implemented some sort of onerous carbon tax.

It may be easier and less bothersome just to raise rates to limit use, sell the excess to someone willing to pay, collect the profits and all is well. Works every time. Why fight the will o' the people.

Do you pay more than the equivalent of US0.43/kWh?

Electricity domestic ~0.26$/kWh, industrial ~0.10$/kWh that includes a 10% carbon tax at the point of production.

You have to wipe your brain now! You are not supposed to know prices in US or even on the Bahamas. Did you google prices in Japan? Stop it. It is radioactive and not worth looking at. It just makes your heart fail because its so damn cheap.