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Transformer Oil Degradation

02/17/2013 10:22 PM

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We have a pair of 11kv/66kv Step up TXs at our Power Station for which we have yearly DGA conducted. The past few years we have witnessed variations in our methane and ethane levels both dropping and rising considerably. My question is three part...

1) What causes these fluctuations?

2) What levels are cause for alarm in all dissolved gases?

3) How long should your TX oil actually last?

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Re: Transformer Oil Degradation

02/18/2013 1:18 AM

check this please

Transformer Oil Degradation

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Re: Transformer Oil Degradation

02/18/2013 11:04 AM

There are several reasons that you could have the dissolved gas levels increase & decrease over multiple samples. The usual cause of variation that goes up and down (if the tranformer is a sealed tank or conservator type) is that you are taking the oil sample while the transformer is at different oil temperatures each time. The solubility of gases in oil varies with temperature, and if you don't record the oil temp when you take the sample, the laboratory cannot compensate the DGA values for the temp variation.

Another possibility, if the transformer is free-breathing, is that it is generating methane and ethane, but the gases are coming out of solution and venting off to the atmosphere. Common cause of methane is general overheating of the transformer, and is usually accompanied by some increase in carbon monoxide as the paper insulation is oxidized. Ethane is usually caused by somewhat higher, more localized heating such as from a hot internal connection or because of corona / discharge within the tank. However, discharge also usually also causes an increase in hydrogen.

If the levels of methane and ethane are not higher than alarm limits, then just watch them over time. If they are steadily increasing, then eventually you will need to do an internal inspection to see if the source of the heating can be determined and corrected. If it is overheating due to load, then your solution is to reduce the load or cool the transformer better (add fans).

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Re: Transformer Oil Degradation

02/18/2013 4:44 PM

Thanks PeterT. You've explained alot. Our DGA reported that we may have overheating causing our problems. It was reported to us that general overheating would have produced temperatures between 150 and 300 degrees celsius but our maximum winding and oil temp have only reached 84 and 69 degrees celsius respectively. I will be noting from now on the winding and oil temps when we take samples. Also I wondering as we are a peaking plant and not a base load plant, would you expect differering results due to our cyclic operation?

Again thanks for your help.

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02/19/2013 7:40 AM

Your temp gauges can only show you the temperature of the oil blanket (which doesn't tell you what's happening inside the core & coils) and a specific, "typical" spot in the windings where the winding temp sensor is located. You could have hotter areas in the windings if there is some location elsewhere that is heating more. It would not be detected by your gauges.

Peaking plants often will have cyclical variations, due to the fluctuating nature of your loading. You go from low load on the transformer (rather quiescent state) to a level where you are probably loading the unit to near its rating? It may be worth assuring that your cooling fans (if you have them) are forced on when loaded, or if you don't have fans on the radiators, have some added. It is a low cost to extend the life of the transformer, compared to having to replace it.

You didn't give actual values of any of the gases, so it's impossible for me to give any evaluation of the condition. It really is necessary to look at how ALL the gases compare to get a good sense of what the transformer is doing. As I said, values for carbon monoxide and hydrogen in comparison to the methane and ethane can help illuminate the picture. Good luck!

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Re: Transformer Oil Degradation

02/19/2013 10:50 PM

Are the transformers yours or the utility? Are you seeing acetylene as well in the DGA. You don't say the levels as others have mentioned. Are you working with a transformer repair / inspection company at present and what are they saying.

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