Previous in Forum: Plant Based Oil to Mixed With Petroleum Based Oil   Next in Forum: Steam Turbine
Close
Close
Close
10 comments
Rate Comments: Nested
Member

Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 8

Air Receiver Test in India

04/19/2013 8:29 AM

As per ISO standard Hyd. pressure testing is specified at 1.5 times pressure of working pressure. What should be corosion allowance for 10mm thick shell wall as to reduce the authorised pressure. As per Indian standard ultrasonic test is carried out every year and hydraulic test every four year - what should be frequency of these test

Register to Reply
Interested in this topic? By joining CR4 you can "subscribe" to
this discussion and receive notification when new comments are added.

Good Answers:

These comments received enough positive votes to make them "good answers".

"Almost" Good Answers:

Check out these comments that don't yet have enough votes to be "official" good answers and, if you agree with them, vote them!
2
Guru
Engineering Fields - Mechanical Engineering - New Member Fans of Old Computers - TRS-80 - New Member Popular Science - Weaponology - New Member Safety - Hazmat - New Member Hobbies - Fishing - Fish On! United States - Member - New Member

Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Detroit MI, USA
Posts: 2496
Good Answers: 271
#1

Re: Air receiver test in India

04/19/2013 9:27 AM

umm,.... every year and every 4 years????

__________________
How we deal with death is at least as important as how we deal with life. --CAPTAIN KIRK, Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
Register to Reply Good Answer (Score 2)
Guru

Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 1296
Good Answers: 104
#2
In reply to #1

Re: Air receiver test in India

04/19/2013 10:53 AM

Sounds good to me. As far as the corrosion allowance, it presumably was specified at time of purchase. Should be on the nameplate, and for sure on the fab drawing/spec.

Register to Reply
Power-User

Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Central Midwest
Posts: 455
Good Answers: 38
#3

Re: Air Receiver Test in India

04/19/2013 12:10 PM

You ask: "What should be corrosion allowance for 10mmthick shell wall as to reduce the autorized pressure"

If the receiver was built to ASME VIII standards, the vessel is deemed safe for the design pressure AFTER THE WALL HAS BEEN CORRODED THE AMOUNT SPECIFIED BY THE PURCHASER.

Common corrosion allowances for ASME-VIII Air Receivers are 0.065 and 0.125 inches.

Air recievers undergo accelerated corrosion on the bottom parts. Oxygen bearing water has a tendency to collect there.

It is wise to consider an automatic device to discharge this water and test THE BOTTOM of these recievers more frequently than other pressure vessels.

My opinion only

__________________
We have met the enemy....and he is us. POGO
Register to Reply Score 1 for Good Answer
Guru

Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 42355
Good Answers: 1693
#4

Re: Air Receiver Test in India

04/19/2013 1:24 PM

You will hear a deafening boom when the corrosion allowance has been exceeded.

Register to Reply
Guru

Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Tamworth, UK.
Posts: 1782
Good Answers: 45
#8
In reply to #4

Re: Air Receiver Test in India

04/20/2013 7:38 AM

A boom maybe, in the extreme yes, but what is the likely failure outcome of progressive corrosion in between proof testing dates (or not tested).

Is it a hole or a split, becoming obvious by the sound of leaking, or failure to reach working pressure, or something more drastic?

I have no personal knowledge of exploding air receivers.

Just wondered.

__________________
When arguing, remember mud-slinging = lost ground.
Register to Reply
Guru
United Kingdom - Member - Indeterminate Engineering Fields - Control Engineering - New Member

Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: In the bothy, 7 chains down the line from Dodman's Lane level crossing, in the nation formerly known as Great Britain. Kettle's on.
Posts: 32175
Good Answers: 839
#5

Re: Air Receiver Test in India

04/19/2013 4:20 PM

This thread doesn't make sense. These are the sorts of questions that need to be addressed to the Engineer/Surveyor from the company that supplies burst indemnity insurance cover for the vessel. The corrosion allowance will be built into the design calculations, a copy of which will be held by that company. The frequency of the test and the maximum working pressure are determined by that individual on visual and thickness testing of the vessel at the inspection intervals that the company requires. Its safe working pressure appears on the inspection report document, which is filed in the facility's General Register.

To vary these arrangements by inviting the contribution of anonymous contributors to an international Engineering discussion forum is crass, quite frankly.

__________________
"Did you get my e-mail?" - "The biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place" - George Bernard Shaw, 1856
Register to Reply Score 1 for Good Answer
Guru

Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 42355
Good Answers: 1693
#6
In reply to #5

Re: Air Receiver Test in India

04/19/2013 4:26 PM

Might add irresponsible and maybe even unethical!

But, hey, anything to save a buck rupee.

Register to Reply
Member

Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 8
#7
In reply to #5

Re: Air Receiver Test in India

04/20/2013 2:18 AM

Engineer/Surveyor from the company that supplies burst indemnity insurance cover for the vessel are not from heaven with perfect knowledge. Even test reports/certificates some time questioned and challanged. Since it was noticed that there are many conflict on corrosin allowance and periodic testing of pressure vessel in difrent standards. Anyway thanks for the comments and instant solution for the query

Register to Reply
Guru
United Kingdom - Member - Indeterminate Engineering Fields - Control Engineering - New Member

Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: In the bothy, 7 chains down the line from Dodman's Lane level crossing, in the nation formerly known as Great Britain. Kettle's on.
Posts: 32175
Good Answers: 839
#9
In reply to #7

Re: Air Receiver Test in India

04/20/2013 5:37 PM

Opinions on the quality of thse individuals' knowledge are completely irrelevant! These individuals are professionally liable to their underwriters. To disregard their instructions exposes one to the withdrawal of burst indemnity insurance cover and, in turn, to personal and professional liability in the event of the vessel rupturing. Should this disregard be taking place, please ensure all other CR4 readers and all innocent bystanders are a safe distance away from the vessel before exceeding its maximum authorised working pressure. That way, only one individual gets sued/injured/scalded/maimed/killed.

__________________
"Did you get my e-mail?" - "The biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place" - George Bernard Shaw, 1856
Register to Reply
Guru
New Zealand - Member - Kiwi Popular Science - Weaponology - New Member Engineering Fields - Power Engineering - New Member Engineering Fields - Electrical Engineering - New Member

Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
Posts: 8777
Good Answers: 376
#10
In reply to #7

Re: Air Receiver Test in India

04/21/2013 3:49 PM

Engineer/Surveyor from the company that supplies burst indemnity insurance cover for the vessel are not from heaven with perfect knowledge.

No, but they are paid to take the risk, not you or I (if I read this CR4 thread correctly). Standards vary but the equipment should be certified and inspected to the relevant local standards applicable to your application and signed off by others (especially if a variation is requested).

__________________
jack of all trades
Register to Reply
Register to Reply 10 comments

Good Answers:

These comments received enough positive votes to make them "good answers".

"Almost" Good Answers:

Check out these comments that don't yet have enough votes to be "official" good answers and, if you agree with them, vote them!
Copy to Clipboard

Users who posted comments:

anil kumar thakur (1); bigg (1); horace40 (1); jack of all trades (1); JPool (1); lyn (2); MJCronin (1); PWSlack (2)

Previous in Forum: Plant Based Oil to Mixed With Petroleum Based Oil   Next in Forum: Steam Turbine

Advertisement