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2 or 4 Quadrant Operation of AC Drive

06/04/2013 2:22 AM

In DC drives, some are mentioned as 2 quadrant and some as 4 quadrant. But in AC drives, there is no such mention. Why?

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Re: 2 or 4 quadrant operation of AC Drive

06/04/2013 2:50 AM

more research from your side is needed.

Check out this one:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variable-frequency_drive

it talks about what the quadrant actually means.

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Re: 2 or 4 Quadrant Operation of AC Drive

06/04/2013 8:15 PM

We don't really use that term commonly for AC drives (despite that Wiki article). The "quadrant" concept was adopted for DC controls because making a DC motor brake (quadrant 2) or turn in the opposite direction (quadrant 3) means adding a lot more capability to a DC drive and thus the cost of the drive goes up. So if you did not discuss it clearly up front, you may end up not getting that capability on a less expensive drive, or paying extra for capabilities you don't need.

But on an AC drive, these ability are essentially inherent in the design that makes it a VFD in the first place. So reversing the motor direction (quadrant 3) is not really worth discussing, you get that capability if you want it or not. And Braking (quadrants 2 and 4) is optional regardless of direction. So although a DC drive can be 1 quadrant, or 2 quadrant (meaning 1 and 2), or 4 quadrant (meaning adding reversibility to get 3 and 4), an AC drive is always 2 quadrant (but meaning 1 and 3) and can be easily field modified to be 4 quadrant by adding a braking module (for 2 and 4). It just gets too confusing to use that terminology. The only choice in AC drives in this regard is adding braking or not.

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Re: 2 or 4 Quadrant Operation of AC Drive

06/04/2013 9:22 PM

That explains it! TA

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Re: 2 or 4 Quadrant Operation of AC Drive

06/06/2013 1:35 AM

Thank you!

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Re: 2 or 4 Quadrant Operation of AC Drive

06/04/2013 11:09 PM

You get any quadrant control in any drive. IF you are willing to learn them, and willing to pay for it.

Raef explained it ably. I do not need to add to it here, unless....

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Re: 2 or 4 Quadrant Operation of AC Drive

06/05/2013 1:54 AM

I would say you CAN get any quadrant control in AC or DC drives.

BUT you better understand an AC regenerative drive (I do mean regenerative to the AC line, not a bank of braking rtesistors) is significantly more expensive than an equivalent 4 quadrant DC drive. This cost difference can be easily 2x for the AC system. Understanding your application and how much power you need to recover with brakibg or regeneration is key to a good design.

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