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Current Transducers Application Field

06/12/2013 2:53 PM

Hello, guys. My question is related to my research work and I really really need help.I am a Phd student involved to the work of one R&D department. We are currently working with a technology which allows us to improve the performance of Hall effect based current sensors, in particular we can provide larger frequency bandwidth( >400 kHz) comparing to the Hall effect based (250 kHz), accuracy 0.1% and while remaining at same price range with the hall effect based sensors. While investigating the market needs and applications of the sensors I have faced with a problem that Hall effect sensors cover the needs of the industry pretty well, so no obvious gaps were found. I am not a professional in the field yet, that's why i need help in picking out some potential industries our sensor can be used, with an emphasize on 400 kHZ of frequency bandwidth and 0.1% of accuracy. It is a part of my future thesis, so I really will appreciate any help/advice. May be you can give me some hints what application can really benefit from it? Or may be someone just can share his opinion?Thank you for the collaboration.

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06/12/2013 3:40 PM

You might want to go to the commercial section and pose your question there.

We're not supposed to do homework for students.

Poll some manufacturer's web sites and see where they are weak.

You'll need to learn how to do this, sans forum support, to be successful.

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06/12/2013 3:46 PM

I am looking for experts' help not for someone to do my homework. Thnx for being helpful.

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06/12/2013 4:11 PM

What we have here is a product in search of a market.
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06/12/2013 4:53 PM

An accuracy of 0.1% doesn't seem too impressive.

Now, 99.9% accuracy would be pretty good. What are the existing Hall effect sensors you wish to knock off of the top of the heap claiming as accuracy?

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06/12/2013 5:02 PM

I'm not sure what a 150 KhZ band width would buy the end user, either.

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06/13/2013 4:48 AM

Where did you grab "150kHz"? I was talking about another number: ">400kHz"

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06/13/2013 8:59 AM

That's a 150kHz increase in bandwidth. I didn't express myself literally.

What does another 150kHz in bandwidth buy the end user. (by going from 250 to 400kHz)

There.

The point here is that you seem to have developed a product with no market in mind and now you want us to provide that market to you?

How does that work?

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06/13/2013 9:19 AM

well, actually no product currently is being produced by me. I am working with a technology from which the current sensor with particular features might be produced. I respect the need of market research so that"s why i am here asking about some hints/guidelines/advice. In case i figure out its promising to go for it - i will, in case it is recognized as lacking of any benefits for anyone then we will never start developing this product.

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06/13/2013 9:25 AM

I know you are not producing anything.

It's a research PROJECT. You are supposed to do the research yourself.

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06/13/2013 9:31 AM

ok, let's stop it. The discussion is meaningless. I understand your point: "Do it yourself. We are not supposed to do your job". Thanx for the feedback. Obviously I should find other people or more appropriate place to talk about my things.

Hav a nice day.

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06/13/2013 1:20 PM

You're right, but before you go on to bigger and better things, you might want to consider why you failed here. Your Piled Higher & Deeper degree didn't carry any weight, probably because it signaled a higher level of performance than was actually delivered. To whit, you said "...frequency bandwidth( >400 kHz)...and accuracy 0.1%...", when you should have said "...switching frequency >400 kHz...and linearity of 0.1%...", these misstatements tipped off the forum about your engineering background or lack thereof.

Your marketing expertise was not clearly evidenced by your statement "...While investigating the market needs and applications of the sensors I have faced with a problem that Hall effect sensors cover the needs of the industry pretty well, so no obvious gaps were found...", which begs the question of why are you investigating something that has no obvious need.

By now you should know that how one structures their question has a profound effect upon the answer received, it doesn't matter whether it's The Oracle, Google, or CR4 that you've queried. In your next forum try this:

"Hi, I'm a (fill-in-the blank) PHD candidate working in a (fitb) research lab. I'm working on my thesis while assisting the company to see if there is a market for a Hall effect sensor which has a higher switching frequency switching frequency >400 kHz vs the current 250 kHz, while maintaining a linearity of 0.1%."

"My goal in contacting you is to see if there is a real or perceived need for such a device, based upon you or your colleagues' industry knowledge, and if there is, what quantity might be required."

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06/13/2013 1:47 PM

Thanks.

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06/13/2013 2:24 PM

You are right. Thank you for the advice. I appreciate your feedback a lot!

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06/12/2013 5:19 PM

This looks like it has a lot of potential as a future LynDoor™Industries product.

This product is so good advanced cutting edge industry leading paradigm changing astronomically fantastic that it doesn't leave a single already filled niche

er, unfilled.

Now, all we need is a name. DoorMan, as head of the LynDoor™Industries product marketing department, I leave it in your hands.

Something like, "sure, you already have all the Hall effect sensors you need, today. But, what about tomorrow, when band width is shrinking. Then wouldn't it be nice to know that you have more band width than you can possibly use at any one time"??

You know, you can foof it up some.

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06/12/2013 5:42 PM

I was thinking more along the lines of including these sensors in the next release of the SAMWICH device. It would be nice to have a real lock on something... difficult to reverse engineer if nobody can figure out what the parts are.

We are having some troubles with the take-off parts we got from that Russian submarine that we liberated acquired. Some of the generation XIV SAMWICH devices (which uses a mix of the sub electronics and some leftover stuff from the Bolivian satellite program we got kicked off dropped) are not decompressing the stored light at an acceptable rate, and we are getting complaints about our customers being in the dark more often than they wish to be.

I tried more baloney in the SAMWICH, but that hasn't improved the performance.

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06/12/2013 7:35 PM

When you are having problems in the field, it is sometimes fruity fruitful to review older training films, such as this: It could be this

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