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Old Motion Picture Film Breakage

06/01/2007 1:02 PM

I wish to attempt to play some old 8mm and Super 8mm motion picture film so I can record it using a new digital camera for archieve purposes. I know this film is very old (some up to 60 years old) and is very brittle. I was wondering if there is a process or if there are conditions I can control that may make the film a little less brittle before I attempt to run it through a projector.

I know that some of the reels are small in diameter and that the process of straightening the film may cause it to crack and break. I don't know if they will stay intact long enough to be fed through a projector which has feed rollers that will bend the film in both directions before it reaches the light source and lens on the projector.

Are there any preparations I can make to the film to help it? Will warming the film to a temperature above room temperature help? as of now my only option is to have a lot of splicing tape ready. If there is a better way I sure would like to know it!

Maybe there are special projectors that do not bend the film to reduce bearkage. I figured I might be able to get some good technical advise from the people here. Any suggestions are appreciated. I sent an email to Kodak and am waiting for a responce. Hopefully they might have some ideas since much of the film was sold by them!

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06/01/2007 1:36 PM

I have an idea that I doubt will help you. If you are really willing to put lots of time into this you could manually scan the film in with a scanner. You should then be able to assemble the frames back into a movie with the computer. I imagine this would be way too much work to be worth it unfortunately.

Have you thought about contacting a place that will transfer the film for you, I am sure they deal with old film all the time.

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06/01/2007 2:26 PM

The family did this once before on VHS tape and they did a terrible job and it was very expensive. To scan the film (one frame at a time) would take years for one person. Each frame is smaller than your fingernail!

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06/02/2007 9:29 PM

another problem is that the material that the film is made out of (i forget, acetel, or something, has a tendency to stick to itself, so it is difficult to unwind the roll ......

good luck

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06/03/2007 3:09 AM

It may not be as inflexible as you might imagine. The really problem stuff is acetate, I do not believe that it was used that much since 1945 or maybe even earlier....perhaps someone on CR4 could date its usage for us better.....

I would take a chance on one film and use a good quality projector that you have already tested that it works as it should....be ready to switch off as quickly as possible of course.

Commercial companies that do such recovery work are very, very expensive.....

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06/03/2007 12:27 PM

if you truely value these, take them to a pro........once they are damaged that are gone forever...........

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