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Transformer Overloading of Delta Bank Supplying Both 3 ph and ph1 Power

08/08/2013 12:12 PM

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I have a complex problem involving a three phase bank of three single phase transformers. The phase voltage on the star primary side is 6.9kV (12kV line-line) and the phase voltage on the secondary center tapped delta is 115 / 230 V using a 4 wire system. The center tap is between the red and white phases.

The bank consists of 2 power transformers and 1 lighting transformer. The lighting transformer kVA rating is less than or equal to 2 times the rating of the power transformer. For example a bank can have one 75kVA transformer (lighting TF) and two 50kVA transformers (power TFs), the largest combination being three 75kVA transformers.

I can work out what each transformer coil is rated at (ie 50kVA / 230, 75kVA / 230). How do I calculate the % current overloading in terms of of each transformer's coil (phase) current given the line current output of the delta secondary and knowing that the phase voltage is 230V (115 / 115 V at the center tap)? This would of course involve calculating the phase currents in the delta secondary and comparing each phase current with that transformer's rated coil current. But what complicates the problem is the fact that the bank is used to supply single phase loads as well.

(1)The three phase load is shared equally among the 3 TFs i.e. 1/3:1/3:1/3, (2)the single phase load 230 V is shared in the ratio 1/3:2/3:1/3 and (3)the single phase load 115V is shared in the ratio 1/6:5/6:1/6.

Points 2 & 3 do not add up to total of 1. In the case of Pt. 2 it is meant to signify that the center TF lighting load is twice that of the other two. In the case of Pt. 3 the center TF single phase (lighting load) is 5 times the other two.

I have included a diagram to help explain. The center TF is the lighting TF. Answers with calculations would be much appreciated.

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Re: Transformer Overloading of Delta Bank Supplying Both 3 ph and ph1 Power

08/08/2013 4:12 PM

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"(3)the single phase load 115V is shared in the ratio 1/6:5/6:1/6.".

How do you figure that the other two transfortmers contribute anything to your single phase 115V loads? Perhaps I am missing something.

IMHO... your single phase 115V loads will all be provided for by the middle tranasformer and must be connected across the red and yellow phases to the neutral.

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Re: Transformer Overloading of Delta Bank Supplying Both 3 ph and ph1 Power

08/09/2013 9:01 AM

Yes, the single phase 115V loads will all be on the center transformer.

You might have an easier time figuring this out if you analyze your loads the way you have broken them up in your 3 points, and then use the principle of superposition to totalize them. Think of it as if you have one transformer bank of 3-50kVA units and a single 25kVA, 115/230V transformer for the 115V loads. The 3-phase 230V loads should be easy to figure. The 115V loads should be pretty straightforward too, and then what's left is to distribute the single-phase 230V loads among the units to balance out as best possible to balance. If the 115V loads are more than 25kVA, then that eats into the kVA available on the middle 50kVA (3-ph) unit for single-phase 230V loads.

Hope I've caught the gist of what you are trying to accomplish.

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08/10/2013 12:34 AM

You could always copy the entire page of your homework question.

"Answers with calculations would be much appreciated." Not from me!

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Re: Transformer Overloading of Delta Bank Supplying Both 3 ph and ph1 Power

08/11/2013 9:39 PM

Thank you PeterT and North_of_60 for the suggestions, I upvoted both answers as good. I apologize for typing that TonyS, this is not a homework problem I typed this out as best I could from the description of the problem explained to me by a colleague based on a real world problem. I guess I overlooked the detail with the 115V single phase load being supplied by only the center transformer. I was hoping to get some guidance in the form of a general equation as I am sure this is a common problem and there is no need to reinvent the wheel.

Let me go over how all the loads are distributed with my colleague and I will post them here in point form as best I could.

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Re: Transformer Overloading of Delta Bank Supplying Both 3 ph and ph1 Power

08/12/2013 8:54 AM

Now that I think about it, I think we are overlooking a very important detail.

I mentioned that the secondary windings of the three single phase transformers are connected in a center-tapped DELTA configuration. Wouldn't this mean that the currents flowing through the coils of the power transformers be drawn by the center transformer in supplying the single phase 115V load because this is delta? Correct me if I am wrong but that is how I envisioned it.

The current readings are taken from the secondary side of the transformer as illustrated below.

The aim is to find delta phase currents IRB, IBW and IRW using measured line current values IR, IW and IB to determine if these phase currents exceed the rated coil current of the individual single phase transformers (based on rated kVA and secondary phase voltage 230V).

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