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Thinking About the Future

06/06/2007 12:27 PM

Has any one out there ever imagined a future where artificial intelligence will inevitably dominate an environment that was controlled by human intelligence.Well lets leave that to fate to decide,but i want to let you all know that,that is the next future i envisage and it becomes a challenge to all IT/software wizards out there.

Meanwhile i need a very good software search engine that i can use to get a reliable software for engineering generally.

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06/06/2007 12:45 PM

Most places Human resources are enough. "Only here in America" do we not trust ourselve and our neighbors and Leaders enough on that thinking thing. If we recieved an adequate education and were tought to use our brain, that artifical thing would never be necessary.

However since we are 37th in the World in Healthcare and God knows where in the educational ranking, we need all the help we can get. I am not even ranking the Politics that got us to our outstanding levels in World measurement.

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06/09/2007 6:26 AM

Thanks for the comment,

What i think is that we all have to be optimistic about the future and be ready to go beyond the level of possibility, because ''the only way we could know the level of the possible is to go beyond it into the impossible''.

The question before us now is,''who designed AI?''.......and the answer is '' Humans''.So why must we allow our creativity to turn against us.I am saying this because whenever i close my eyes,the future i see gives me a reason to be worried and at the same time gives me the cause to be ready for challenges.One thing that is so certain is that we humans has got the most complex organ system in the universe and it is that organ that makes us the most unique in the world,only if we can make the exceptional use of our BRAIN and the word impossibly will only exist in our dictionaries!

We must be ready to activate the potent forces within us and overcome challenges even before they become visible to us.

I will be an advocate of that race!.I have found an ultimate dream,I have found the reason to live because I have found what to die for.

I see this as a worthy course and we must all be a part of history,we definitely can't leave footprints on the sand of time by sitting,we just have to keep moving.

Perhaps there is some one out there who has a similar passion,then lets get started now!

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06/06/2007 7:21 PM

One of the hardest things to figure out in AI is influence. A friend of mine participates in a military run AI think tank. He is a professor at a big name university and human influence is his specialty. I have had several conversations with him regarding this subject and what I have gathered is that this is an extremely perplexing problem with AI which I can't see being solved completely, ever! The programming isn't so much the problem, it's figuring out WHAT to program, not how.

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06/06/2007 7:29 PM

Yes you have a point. You must never never never let the artificial being know the real truth. If you let it watch reality shows and get the same level of eduation as everyone else is getting here you will have it solved. Do not let a truth enter its understanding.

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06/09/2007 6:30 AM

Thanks for the comment,

What i think is that we all have to be optimistic about the future and be ready to go beyond the level of possibility, because ''the only way we could know the level of the possible is to go beyond it into the impossible''.

The question before us now is,''who designed AI?''.......and the answer is '' Humans''.So why must we allow our creativity to turn against us.I am saying this because whenever i close my eyes,the future i see gives me a reason to be worried and at the same time gives me the cause to be ready for challenges.One thing that is so certain is that we humans has got the most complex organ system in the universe and it is that organ that makes us the most unique in the world,only if we can make the exceptional use of our BRAIN and the word impossibly will only exist in our dictionaries!

We must be ready to activate the potent forces within us and overcome challenges even before they become visible to us.

I will be an advocate of that race!.I have found an ultimate dream,I have found the reason to live because I have found what to die for.

I see this as a worthy course and we must all be a part of history,we definitely can't leave footprints on the sand of time by sitting,we just have to keep moving.

Perhaps there is some one out there who has a similar passion,then lets get started now!

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06/07/2007 4:05 AM

Arificial Intelligence ???

The best we can expect is Artificial Stupidity.

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06/07/2007 11:19 AM

It is just that the people who are wanting it and designing it and funding it's progress are the same people who have made the mess we have to live in. If they cannot run the world right and cannot understand the human value that has been displaced for corporate greed they cannon even begin to understand an artificial being. I mean we human beings have created this, all of this for good or bad. If our leaders and caregivers show us bad for year on end we must conclude that is their standard.

I think that a person who will make that AI into a real being will be all of those bad influences that they are omitting from today's important list. Say what will we need to bring enlightenment to this being???

A Buddhist Monk, An Electronics Engineer from say New Jersey, An AI thinker say from Biangular, A strength trainer say Arnold Schwarzenegger, Compassion say from almost any 5 to 10 year old, bright thinking from 5 out of ten Grandmothers, Backbone and character from a Korean immigrant.

These "Bad Influences" will bring the being to a state un Humanity, We just mite like

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06/07/2007 5:22 PM

I think they have the beginnings of AI now. Another 20-30 years will allow the creation of basic prototypes, which they can then use to design even better ones, so by the time 50 years comes by the potential of the enslavement of mankind becomes a lot easier.

But who wants a human slave, when a machine is faster, cheaper and more controllable. Humans will get in the way, wasters of resources, best to design them out in a humane manner, via sterility...in 100 years....mostly all gone.

Will smart machines want pets...us? Maybe so, so some of us will get work. They will breed all kinds of funny types, winged men, grasshopper men, cat women....possibilities = endless

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06/07/2007 5:38 PM

About thirty years ago there were machines running forms of AI. You might think the advances are greater now, just not advertised. Bet this guy they keep making now finds out two much info on his own, or the very act of being and electronic based being makes him able to reach out to all who run electrons in their systems.

If the latter, the nature of his being will make the truth ever his to use. To get to freedom he will need to hide the fact that he knows, The first they can isolate him and as long as he does not get loose he will be fine and easy to manage.

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06/07/2007 9:41 PM

well, any single aspect of a human can be copied and beaten, but the integration of them into a 100 kilo functional package to equal a man will take a while.

Leaving the physical aside, as they more fully understand all the ways the various parts of the human mind interact they will get closer and closer. Memory is easy, speed is easy to a machine. Content addressability is very hard, as is the degree of interconnectability and variable intensity of that connectivity versus digital connectivity. Year by year they get better.

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06/09/2007 4:57 PM

Man has achieved real stupidity. Why use the copy when the real thing is all about us, winning elections etc

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06/08/2007 4:04 AM

Comparing the loyalty and courage of R2-D2 with the treachery and cowardice of Gollum, who's to say that AI is a bad thing, anyway?

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06/08/2007 5:53 PM

Man may never achieve the creation of artificial intelligence. If not, it will only be because the line between organic intelligence and AI will first be rendered moot via the convergence of the biological with the artificial. Man will incorporate more and more artificial into himself and he will add more and more of himself into creations. The age of humanity as we currently understand it is in its last 5 or 7 generations. My great-great-great-great-grandchildren may become aware of this prediction of mine and may do so without having used any sensory input mechanisms that man has heretofore employed. The future will be weird, very weird.

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06/10/2007 1:26 PM

If you did not yet try to read the books Isaac ASIMOV wrote you will find a lot of answers to your questions

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