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Filter Design

11/21/2013 7:39 AM

Hi,

I am trying to design a filter that is supposed to work with compressed ethylene gas at a very high mass flow rate of about 150 kiloton per hour.

What are the variables that I should focus on?

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Is there a comprehensive source that I can go to?

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Re: Filter Design

11/21/2013 9:55 AM

Compressed means there is pressure. Whatever else you do don't forget to look at the pressure ratings.

For high flow rate high flow area is recommended unless otherwise specified in the process map. This will be a good start to look at.

What is the filter for? Another thing to consider!

Did you check what is commercially available? Dependent on what you filter out you might find you do not need to do the design but can buy it off the shelf.

More info needed.

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11/21/2013 10:17 AM

something doesn't add up here

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11/21/2013 1:37 PM

flow rate of about 150 kiloton per hour

..............I'm sorry, what was your application again and how large is the pipe. Are you sure you have your figures right for a start?

At this flow rate you would go through the entire combined worldwide production of Ethylene in around 38 days (using 2011 worldwide production figures).

What's the application?

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11/21/2013 2:41 PM

Good questions! Shame there isn't a Good Question button....

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11/24/2013 1:35 AM

you could have just said .... " you are wrong "

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11/25/2013 3:48 AM

That could be considered either arrogant or disrespectful, or both. Not a good place to go.

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11/22/2013 7:45 AM

150,000 tons is a whole lot of ethylene. Are you planning to fly to the moon?

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11/22/2013 10:05 AM

You cannot be serious about the flowrate! as others have said. Did you mean 150 kt/year?

But apart from that, you need to consider, among other things

- gas pressure

- gas temperature

- what are you trying to remove, what concentration and particle size

There are in-line filters on natural gas distribution systems. That might give you a starting point

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11/24/2013 1:10 AM

sorry for the terrible mistake

the specification is as follow:

- the application is to filter the partially reacted polyethylene and wax that are carried out with the recycled ethylene gas from the low pressure wax seperator to the booster compressor in an LDPE plant

-the mass flow rate is 46 ton per hour

- the pressure is between 1.5 to 2 bar

-the pipe diameter cannot exeed 8 to 10 Cm

-the temperature is between 40 and 60 Centigrade

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What are the variables that I should focus on?

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Is there a comprehensive source that I can go to?

Thanks

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