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Synchronizing Problem

02/05/2014 12:02 PM

last week i face two problems in two genset operating in parallel with deepsea controller and woodward load sharing module both genset operating with EMCP 2 module:

* first problem : when we trying to start first generator the screen of emcp wasn't working i measure the power on power terminal of emcp found it's OK and i measure fuses found it's OK when i remove batteries cable and reconnected it the EMCP screen operated normally

* Second problem : Genset#1 has droop setting of 3%

Genset#2 has droop of zero

during attempting to parallel during genset#2 is on service generator#1 takes all the load and genset#2 became unloaded.

during attempting to parallel during genset#1 is onload genset#1 tripped on reverse power.

I set both of load sharing module on zero , Both generator operated normally and share load .

I couldn't understand why this situation happened due to only droop setting

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Re: Synchronizing problem

02/05/2014 12:47 PM

On the face of it, I would say that having your droop settings at least matched between the two gensets would be key.

I can adjust droop settings on my HVPS's over and over again. When I do them independently to the same calibrated settings, I find that the droop settings are identical. Each power source must know what the other power source is "willing to do".

If one power source takes more of the load, and the other one gives it then you will have an unbalanced condition. The reverse voltage realy settings, however, will fight that, which is the whole idea of the reverse voltage relay...one purpose being to prevent damage to your generator's prime mover.

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Re: Synchronizing Problem

02/06/2014 5:41 AM

If both Gensets are of the same power rating, then the droop setting will tend to be set identically.

If you have Woodward load sharing modules on both gensets, then you are supposed to do a particular setting, described in the manual, to calibrate the 2 units to wotk properly together. There is a cable connected between the 2 units for this purpose.

Otherwise, you will not be able to load share properly, if you want to modify the droop settings independently. Read the Woodward manual and adjust the gain setting as described, with the interconnecting cable in place.

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Re: Synchronizing Problem

02/17/2014 11:14 PM

Hi,

I have gone through similar situation, I am sharing the learings from the Incedent-

1. Droop Setting of Alternators is course setting, where as Sync Setting of Woodward is fine setting.

2. But unfortunitely these two does not work together. The AVR Droops the voltage depending upon the Load on the alternator with the help of Droop CT provided in W Phase of the Alternator, Where as Woodward Governer droops the voltage with the help of Aux Input facility (+/- 5 V DC Signal will be feb by the Governer) of the AVR, the woodward governer send such signal to raise or lower the terminal voltage depending upon the KVAr sharing of the alternators. Hence both can not work together.

3 If opted for Droop Setting then the Woodward governer load sharing should be disabled..

4. you need to set the Droop of All alternators to be sync and the Voltage droop should be set at SAME % for same Load. If first alternators droop is set at 4% at one particular load, the rest all alternators droop needs to be set at same 4% with the SAME Load.

5 If the Droops are not SAME, one alternator will work as Alternator and other will work as Motor and eventually the System will trip on Reverse Power..This you can get from the PF meters of both alternator, one alternator's PF would be leading and another will be lagging.

I think if you follow the procedure correctly, then you will be successful.

If in doubt please call the expert form the OEM, who has supplied you the genset and the sync system.

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