Oxygen Production

Hi Tonny,

what you need is called "Oxygen Concentrator" this is much cheaper than buying O2 in cylinders.

Check this (or any other website) http://www.oxygenplusmedical.com/

Regards

- you beat me to it in the editor r&ddoc ! Glad to see I was on the right track though.

Thank you guys,

I wuill check the concentrator and advice the viability,

Cheers.

Tonny

Tonny,

forgot to say: In my country social security provides (lends) these kind of concentrators for free.

Do not attempt to purchase (or lease) one before asking your local health department !!!!

That's true , though pay-back time is only a few weeks and the method is 'greener'.

(also , maybe there is an insurance company involved to negotiate with)

Hello, I don't know where you are, but, in the US call "CHAD THERAPEUTICS" they have aq concentrator (Total O2) which they also sell worldwide. It produces 93% plus O2 and also fills cylinders at the same time as producing O2 that is breathable via canula. Telephone (in USA) 1-800-423-8870. Or try looking for them on Plummer St. in Chatsworth CA 91311

Also try www.chadtherapeutics.com

"the Patient uses 2 cylinders which cost a USD 300 per week, is there a safe and cheaper way to produce the oxygen to assist the patient?"

The O2 supplier/vendor should have suggested the alternative Oxy-Concentrator machine rental. Of course that would have cut his profit most likely and hence neglected to mention it.

I would suggest getting comparative rental expense from as many sources as possible!

The information on the oxygen concentrators in the above replies is correct. I have one running beside me at the moment. They will recharge special tanks but can be a bit slow. The flow of oxygen, at least on the ones I have used is not more than 5 liters per minute. This is a supliment but is not enough for someone who needs nearly 100% oxygen.

"This is a supliment but is not enough for someone who needs nearly 100% oxygen."

As near as I could determine from internet searches NO ONE should use 100% O2 as it results in brain damage.

"This is a supplement but is not enough for someone who needs nearly 100% oxygen. "

Dear Guest,

I am afraid needing 100% O2 is not correct,as this gas is usually blended with air in order to supply a gas that is called Enriched Air.

Most O2 masks have a Venturi built into them in order to provide specific oxygen concentrations. Venturis are color-coded for each concentration.

Patients under O2 therapy usually use concentrations of O2 between 28% and 35%, as higher concentrations may produce undesired effects in the long term.

Dear Guest;

Don't worry about US get hold of CHAD they have clinicians on staff who can advise on the best oxygen therapy.

And , there are devices called conservers which control, or time, the oxygen delivery from a cylinder with gas savings in the area of 4 or 5 to 1 ratios.

Again, www.chadtherapeutics.com and there are other makers (no I don't work for any of them, I'm a retired electrician) Good luck!!!

The level of produced oxygen is not going to get even as high as 35%. My comment was intended to let the questioner know that limited levels were available from these units. I am somewhat familiar with them after using them for three years or so. They are prescription devices in the US, so I use it under medical supervision. I certainly would advise getting direct help from a physician NOT just myself or anyone else and certainly not from someone selling on the internet.

The level of produced oxygen is not going ...

Dear Guest 2 I thought I was replying to Guest 1, this is the cause for my confusion (too many Guests in this forum)

By the way: why don´t you register a member?

Best regards

Oxygen -must be from some Air Separation Plant- for ONE patient at his bedside --to help breathing some of the time= type A :COSTING $300/week Or investing on a gadget costing Brit Pound 3000(~$6000)---this is a solution --Type A

Something else is happening in the Oxygen Supply scene. Somebody in CR4 can take off from that and create a supply Chain offering lower cost Oxygen:

That is ITM oxygen.

Read this: http://www.ceramatec.com/techareas/techa_oxygen.php

That'll be Type B

STOP ----- ENOUGH !!!!!

In the USA Oxygen (Medically used) is a DRUG. It's use at home or in a care facility MUST be by prescription from a doctor.

For patients at home, then, some form of "home care" provider is contracted to provide this drug in one of several forms. Liquid, gas (in cylinders) or a home based filling concentrator with cylinders.

In all of the above, allthough the oxygen available is +/- 100%, the patient receives only the PRESCRIBED flow of this oxygen , measured in liters per minute.

From any of these delivery systems, the patient rarely needs oxygen flow 100% of the time, it is of little use to have oxygen being delivered to your nose while you are exhaling.

So, a "conserver" is installed into the delivery stream which can sense,in one of several ways ,the inspiratory needs of the patient and delivers a bolus (pulse) of oxygen of the prescribed size, to the patient via the canula (or mask) at the patients face or nose.

If ,Guest 1, you are in the USA, PLEASE , get hold of a doctor and follow up on the supply route. Or if somewhere else call (for example) CHAD THERAPEUTICS and they, worldwide can get assistance to you in finding sources of either home-fill concentrators or one of many varieties of conseervers

"STOP ----- ENOUGH !!!!!"

HOORAY --- AT LAST !!!! The nitty gritty from someone with an overall perspective of Medical O2, production, storage, and use from the standpoint of the patient's needs.

When you rent the oxygen concentrator (for in-home use such as sleeping--while not using the tanks for mobility), and if you live where there are occasional power outages or glitches at the home's location (which is just about everywhere these days)...many in this circumstance have a dilemma in that they are fearful of leaving the breathing-assisted person unattended for fear that the power will fail, even momentarily.

The solution is to connect the machine to a reliable UPS (uninterruptible power supply) with substantial battery reserve. Better still is to also connect a computer (full up or in power conserve mode) to the UPS. And best of all is when the UPS will notify the computer about the nature of the power glitch; and notify the family members, no matter where they are, about the utility-power loss to the oxygen machine, the nature of the power outage, and how long the battery reserve will hold out--this can be done by email, IM (to another, portable computer or email phone service) or by pager.

If this interests anyone, I have such a UPS, brand new, top of the line, industrial-commercial grade, priced hundreds below MSRP or market retail that will serve this purpose. Advise it interested....for more details/specs/features.