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04/09/2014 4:32 AM

i am currently working with winders, it was a newly incomplete commissioned project. its a 7171KW squiral cage induction motor. about 4Hz frequency, supplied by three transformer with two secondaries, delta to star and delta. the motor is only connected through star side from the converters. there are two converters per phase. there are DC links which are not conected from delta side.

1. how is pulsating DC calculated from a snuber circuit of 12 pulses, with two resistors, capacitor and thyristor in series?

2. how can the DC links be incooparated in the circuit from the delta side?

3. how the firing angle and time be determined?

4. how is the low frequency achieved to run the induction motor?

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04/10/2014 12:10 AM

"7171KW squiral cage induction motor"

7171kW =7.171MegaWatt! I doubt a squirrel cage motor of that size!

"supplied by three transformer with two secondaries"

At 4 Hz, a transformer is virtually useless, unless it has TONS of core.

Any motor to be operated at 4 Hz, in my limited experience, must be driven by some form of Variable Frequency Drive, with no transformer between the drive and the motor.

Please check your numbers!

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04/14/2014 4:11 AM

dkwarner, not everyone works in the garden chief. its heavy industry we are talking here.

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04/14/2014 4:29 AM

its a CONVERTEAM motor chief

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04/10/2014 3:16 AM

Hello, your DC links may be incorporated in the circuit from the delta side through a diode. The diode will break up the alternating current by only allowing the current to continue in one direction.

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04/14/2014 4:14 AM

mendoza, not high school theories chief. i know what a diod does but the question here is after having the pulsating dc, how do i link the three phase dc from star side and delta side. hope you can pick the intel.

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04/10/2014 5:32 AM

Hi I have a good knowledge of the Mine hoist you are describing, and have designed several similar ones. I am not sure quite what you are looking for from the questions that you have posed. I will confirm that the 7171kW is correct. This is a very big beast with a flat out speed of ~60rpm.

The hoist has three sets of anti-parallel connected thyristor convertors that are arranged as a three phase voltage generator. Each convertor produces a DC output that varies in a sinusoidal fashion with its anti-parallel connected partner providing the negative half of the sinewave. The outputs of the three convertors are star connected together and each shifted by 120 degrees to produce the three phase waveform. To get the required voltage output, each phase is in fact the output of two convertors connected in series.

The control system and algorithm that determines the actual timing of the firing pulses is very complex! The current that the CT's in each convertors AC lines measure is converted to DC that flows in a burden resistor and a diode. The voltage across the burden resistor is "read" by the control regulator and depending on which anti-parallel convertor is active is interpreted as either a positive or negative current value. The voltage across the diode is "read" to determine if the convertor bridge output has dropped to a safe value to permit convertor bridge changeover. The three values of current are then transformed via software into values of Id(magnetising flux current) and Iq(torque current). It is these values that are used as feedback in two software regulators (one for the magnetising flux control and the other for the torque producing element). The outputs from these regulators are then transformed back into three phase current references that are used as inputs to the individual phase convertors.

The low frequency is generated by the software by adding the frequency ref (speed) to the slip angle (required to produce the torque) and clocking the sinewave generator (lookup table) with it to produce a threephase sinewave.

I'm not sure if this fully answers your questions but the topic you have chosen is a complex one and may require much discussion to make things clearer.

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04/14/2014 4:08 AM

thanks for your response zs6bxi, i really appreciate your comment. what i needed is the calculations. how is the voltage output calculated from a 12 pulse rectifier. sure there are three transformers and six converters, two from from each secondary of the transformer of which one is from delta side and other from star. the DC links from converters, only the star side is circuit but the delta is not link. how can link the delta into the circuit? can you shed more information on the regulator. my email is daniel.yambayamba@kcm.co.zm, if you have any circuits, fomulae on this. please email me. i found that, guys who commissioned the project did not leave any intel.

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