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Solenoid Coil

04/17/2014 2:18 PM

I have a solenoid coil, 125 DC volt that is located on our deluge system. This system is 40 years old. We use to order this coil from Strar Sprinkler Corporation and they were bought out by Tyco Grinnel Fire System. I am trying to locate this coil and would like to know if there are still these solenoids in someone shop or shelves. The number on the coil is RL-23.

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04/17/2014 2:48 PM

There is a 95+ percent chance that your valve is actually manufactured by either Skinner or Asco.

They have both supplied solenoid valves to deluge valve manufacturers for many years.

By the way, although your system is probably grandfathered in, you should consider changing your valve to a 24VDC unit, add a Deluge Control panel, and battery back your system.

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Re: Senior Engineer II

04/18/2014 10:18 AM

Thank you very much for your help! We have thought about changing out the old system or just having the coil rewound.

I will bring this idea to our system owner.

Thanks again!

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04/17/2014 2:59 PM

I would look for a substitute....have you called the new company?

Found this on Ebay....

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Re: Senior Engineer II

04/18/2014 10:20 AM

Yes, we have called the new company and they no longer supply this coil. They are recommending changing out the system to a new moderern syste.

Thanks for you comments and assistance.

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Re: Senior Engineer II

04/17/2014 5:25 PM

I know nothing about where to find this solenoid (I know nothing about almost everything), but does your local/national code officer, or your insurance carrier have an opinion about this solenoid.

Fire suppression and all.

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Re: Senior Engineer II

04/18/2014 10:22 AM

We have not considered that option but will if nothing else helps!

Thanks!

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Re: Senior Engineer II

04/17/2014 9:45 PM

Contact your nearest Fire System Supplier or Fire Systems Parts Supplier and ask them for the valve or a compatible valve. They supply parts to many other users and probably have had to supply numerous valves identical or similar to what you have.

You surely are not alone in the need for the valve. If not extremely expensive and with a long delay time in delivery get two valves. One for the replacement and one for the stock shelf. This will be for a quick replacement in the future. Remember, the more expensive it is the longer it probably takes to get another.

Good Luck, Old Salt

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Re: Solenoid Coil

04/18/2014 8:35 AM

Solenoids are fairly simple devices. All you need to know is what size wire and how many turns. You probably want to select a good class of insulation. Just unwind the coil you have - I would do this to locate the failure and try to improve on the reliability of the unit. Then rewind the solenoid with new wire and high temperature/quality insulation.

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Re: Solenoid Coil

04/18/2014 10:24 AM

I will suggest this to the manitenance supervisor and work with the electrical and mechanical repairmen.

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Re: Solenoid Coil

04/18/2014 10:04 AM

If you cannot locate a replacement coil I would suggest that you contact a local motor rewind shop and approach them about rewinding one of your bad coils or ask them to duplicate the coil for your aplication.

Most competent winding shops can do this at a very reasonable cost and within a very short time period.

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Re: Solenoid Coil

04/18/2014 10:27 AM

This is the first thing that we had considered and I decided to explore other options before going to this option. However, if the previous options do not work out, I will then suggest this option to the maintenance supervisor.

Thanks!

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