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Regarding Flow Meter Specifications

04/21/2014 1:59 AM

I want to know what kind of Data Specifications I need to give to buy a Flowmeter which would be applicable for water flow measurement? Here is what I sent to vendor but he is still asking for more Data.

Flow Meter Specifications:

Fluid- water with turbidity < 10000 mg/Ltrs

Measured values- volume flow, flow velocity, Totalizer

Pipe size- 1500 mm

Qn - 19000 m3/h

Pipe material- Carbon Steel, Stainless Steel, Cast Iron, Ductile Iron

Flow Velocity- .01 - 20m/s

Transducer Type- IP68 SS housing, PN 40,

Fluid Temp. - -20 to 200°c

Ambient Temp. - -20 to 60°c

Accuracy - 1 to 3%

Need help asap.

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Re: Regarding Flow Meter Specifications

04/21/2014 8:36 AM

There aren't a lot of flow meters that can handle steam at 200 Deg C and water at -20 Deg C.

There aren't a lot of flow meters that can handle ultra low flow at 0.01m/S all the way up to a hanger busting/pipe clanging velocity of 20m/S

Tough app here.

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Re: Regarding Flow Meter Specifications

04/21/2014 8:56 AM

Are you copying down the specs of an old meter? I could see superheated water at 200Cº but not sure how you could do the -20Cº part. I would imagine your vendor is as confused as we are.

Unless it is classified, just tell the vendor what you are pumping, expected flow rates temperature variations (important for temp compensating meters) and how soon you need it.

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04/21/2014 3:16 PM

Talk, rather than type, to the vendor. Answer the questions.

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Re: Regarding Flow Meter Specifications

04/21/2014 3:54 PM

What additional data is vendor asking for?

Your figures don't work out - velocity at 19000 m3/h is ~ 3 m/s, not 20.

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Re: Regarding Flow Meter Specifications

04/21/2014 5:44 PM

You truly need to talk to the flowmeter supplier.

You are potetnially buying three items of kit they need to match.

The first is the flowmeter housing itself. A piece of tube/pipe with space for some form of sender built into it. It might be flange/flange or some other style of fabrication. What lenght do you want? What coatings do you want? What flange style do you want? Etc.

The second is the flowmeter detector. This could be an electromagnetic coil type, but could also use doppler or an insertion probe. All with their own capabilities relative to accuracy and precission. If you want -1/+3% at 1500mm diameter and 0.01m/sec then there will be some real technical challenges.

The third item is the actual "sender" unit for the detector. This converts the signal from the sensor/detector into a standard format for transmission and needs to be compatible with whatever receiving technology you intend to use. There will also be some information relating to response time and sender rates that might be needed.

The other posts prior to this have also highlighted some other highly relevant ssues, like water at 200DegC? Water at -20DegC? For this suggested range (if actually for the single device) will create further challenges in selecting materials and such for fabrication of said flowmeter. The supplier will probably need to understand potential rate of change of temperature of fluid and also whether insulation is required for the flowmeter to maintain the contents within certain conditions while it passes through (especially at low flow rates).

Talk to the supplier and your own people who understand the process requirements.

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Re: Regarding Flow Meter Specifications

04/22/2014 12:36 AM

Data does not seem to be authentic. Fluid temperataure varies between -20 C to 200 Deg C. What kind of fluid is it and why same pipe for so much of variation. Also kind of fluid is missing. Is it stean, chilled water, Glycol. There is some problem in understanding of application. Alos if it fluid , nature of fluid, TDS if water is also important.

Seems you are new to the job and need more data and understanding before you go for selecting the flow meter.

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Re: Regarding Flow Meter Specifications

04/23/2014 4:11 PM

Your water will not be fluid at -20°C.

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04/23/2014 10:38 PM

OP might be measuring glacial flow....or not.

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