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Grain Size (Fine or Coarse)

06/17/2014 10:16 AM

Dear Sir,

Metallic grains (as mentioned in a didactic text book of Materials Science)
is usually indicated by fine or coarse sized.

There lacks evidence that metallic grains would be medium sized (such as
one may expect via popular literature).

1. What are the differential dimensions between fine and coarse grains?

2. Envisage that grain size being a property (very much) characteristic of a material.
Therefore, is a fine grain in the substrate of carbon steel equivalent
(in dimensions) to one in (Austenitic) stainless steel?
Duplex stainless steel?
Nickel steel?

3. In a fine grained substrate, are the grains mostly close to an average size
but to be interspersed (occasionally) by some other coarse grains thereof?
And therefore, vice versa (in a coarse grained substrate)?

4. Could grain size be indicated by N-grains per unit volume?
[Where N may assume the equivalent of Avogadro`s Number]

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Re: Grain size (fine or coarse)

06/17/2014 10:49 AM

there are (3) methods for grain size estimation.

  1. Comparison Method
  2. Intercept (or Heyn) method
  3. Planimetric (or Jeffries) method

Which method are you using?.......

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Re: Grain size (fine or coarse)

06/17/2014 11:11 AM

Grain Size:

The size of grains such as in a casting, is determined by the relationship between the rate of growth (G) and the rate of nucleation (N).

If the number of nuclei formed is high, a fine grained material will be produced and if only a few nuclei is formed, a course-grain material will be produced. (Avner, 1974)

I understand that this is controlled by the cooling rate and there is either a Fine-Grain or a Course-Grain structure......... And I believe there is a a standard depending what method you use to determine the grain size.

Avner, Sidney H. (1974) Introduction to Physical Metallurgy, (2nd) McGraw-Hill, NY, New York p. 100

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Re: Grain Size (Fine or Coarse)

06/17/2014 11:22 AM

"Although a wide-variety of international standards exist1, ASTM E112 is the dominant standard that grains are analyzed under in North and South America. In former times, and even still in practice today, most quality-control laboratories would analyze grains via the "Chart Comparison" method. Here, operators perform a visual estimation of the grain size by comparing a live image under an optical microscope to a micrograph chart, often posted on the wall near the microscope.

Example of a microscope eyepiece reticle used to compare against a live image.

Or, instead of comparing to a micrograph poster, one can insert an eyepiece reticle containing images of predefined grain size patterns, directly into the microscope's optical path. This way, the comparison is performed directly in the microscope, where the operator can see both the sample at question as well as a "golden" image simultaneously."

http://www.olympus-ims.com/en/applications/grain-size-analysis/

"If you have a pure piece of metal, you can control the size of the grains by heat treatment or by working the metal.

Heating a metal tends to shake the atoms into a more regular arrangement - decreasing the number of grain boundaries, and so making the metal softer. Banging the metal around when it is cold tends to produce lots of small grains. Cold working therefore makes a metal harder. To restore its workability, you would need to reheat it.

You can also break up the regular arrangement of the atoms by inserting atoms of a slightly different size into the structure. Alloys such as brass (a mixture of copper and zinc) are harder than the original metals because the irregularity in the structure helps to stop rows of atoms from slipping over each other."

http://www.chemguide.co.uk/atoms/structures/metals.html

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Re: Grain Size (Fine or Coarse)

06/18/2014 4:24 AM

'Fine' or 'coarse' is a very crude distinction between types of structure. If the grain size really matters to your application then you should be specifying this by defining the size numerically.

Be sure that you understand how the grain size is being expressed. Some methods, as have been mentioned, measure the grain dimension so that small number = small grain size. Other methods count the number of grains within a pre-determined area so that small number = large grain size.

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