Energy Path

Any of those.

Learn selling skills as well.

the answer will come to you

Please guys either have relevant or don't waste my time with answers which I can't be sure of..

Looks to me like you don't understand the meaning of energy.

You want a nice simple formula that will get you the job of your dreams. That's not going to happen. Unless you were born into royalty or rich relatives have so much money they just have to give it to you, you will have to work for a living. And working well is far more valuable than working hard. To the surprise of some, a lazy worker that works well can be the most valuable commodity to any company. The lazy worker that wants and makes others to work hard are the scum of this earth.

Asking for advice when you do not know a topic can be working well. Criticizing that advice as a waste of your time, looks like pond scum to me.

Grow up.

Well you should read what my initial question was, and then if none, you write 9 and then explain why. Maybe you could correct me on energy? What makes you feel like I am lazy when I am just looking forward to my future?..

First, I doubt that you understand energy because you do not recognize that the picture is the most common use of energy by mankind. Many anthropologists believe this task is what makes humans different from all other creatures.

Second, your demonstrated inability to work well with people willing to volunteer their time and knowledge tells me that you should be your own boss and not work at all in energy based operation. All work energy work is hazardous work that requires teams of people working together. You do not work well with others. Maybe one day you will but clearly not now.

I would seriously consider a minor in tolerance if I were you.

Give and take conversations, whether productive for you or not, will be part of the ball game in which ever career path you choose. If you express an active disinterest in what people you associate with have to say, soon they will stop speaking to you.

Believe me, this is a relevant comment. I hope you don't see it as a waste of your valuable time.

I made this new thread and specified how I wanted the replies to be so to not waste people's and my time.(valuable or not). I gave and took conversations in my previous thread but if you could deduce any conclusion from it I would give you the moon,sir.

"Please answer with 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 I need an urgent answer because I am lost."

"Please guys either have relevant or don't waste my time with answers which I can't be sure of.."

If you need an urgent answer that just means that you should have had the foresight to ask the question sooner.

You are the one who wasted his time with other irrelevant things besides thinking about your future. This indicates an immaturity that suggests that you are not ready to make life decisions yet.

Ask your parents of advisers.

Ask the question sooner?Really?Do you live in my head or what?Do you know that I already went to advisors?No you don't, so please stop the hating and maybe help?

I have read the excellent suggestions several practicing engineers have shared with you, both in terms of possible education and in terms of personal habits.

Your response is that it is a waste of your time. Since you obviously know ALL of Answers (since you have soooooo much experience in your limited lifetime) please stop wasting the valuable time of these practicing engineers who are trying to help you based on your own request for advice. Do not ask for advice if you do not want to listen.

Good luck being a successful engineer with such a tiny, closed mind!

Again, I did not mean to be so direct maybe, but I wanted straight forward answers, I mean tell me how "the answer will come to you" or "it doesn't matter" is going to make me decide. Those were the only two posts existing before I posted my answer. Where are those excellent advices before my post about time wasted?

It would appear that excess analysis is getting in the way of making progress. So, simply choose one of those paths, and see where it leads. If it is going in the wrong direction, divert onto another path, for retracing steps will not be required.

Staying put is not an option. Nor is ranting.

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Do not try to get ahead of yourself in your education, or you will stumble and trip.

Master the basics. Physic IS the study of En-ERGy (the ability to do work or force times distance) and mathematics is the language! As you yourself suggest, consider a major in physics with a second major or minor in mathematics. Once you have obtained the basics, then pursue your engineering interest in graduate school.

You will then be an outstanding energy engineer.

Thanks for answering, wouldn't this take very long and be very difficult to achieve?

Quit your whining and go to work, you baby!

No sir. Life is not an easy game, you must plan ahead if you do not want to drown later. Please quit hatin baby!!

yes

it would take very long and be very difficult to achieve

but that is the fun and challenge of physical science and engineering

welcome to the club

:-)

:-)

This does take long and there are difficulties. I've been working on learning this stuff continuously for over 40 years now, and it's been a great life and some great jobs! I've had difficulties, but nothing I couldn't handle. I'm still here, aren't I?

I agree with PWSlack. Pick one and go with it. After you graduate, hardly anyone asks what your major was in college.

You will learn more after you leave college than you do at college, or you will be left behind. Your degree just teaches you the basics and how to learn.

I have no problem in picking any of those, but some still stay one is better than the other, that's why I am still confused. Thanks

Why don't you ask "some" which career path you should take?

You seem to consider them experts.

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I certainly won't pay some expert to give me an advice that may or not be true.

"I certainly won't pay some expert to give me an advice that may or not be true."

So, you have never been to see a physician?

I believe no one here, and that includes you for sure knows what kind of energy you have in mind??? What kind of energy is it anyway?? You may have to define it first!

"Energy engineering is a broad field of engineering dealing with energy efficiency, energy services, facility management, plant engineering, environmental compliance and alternative energy technologies" Source: Wikipedia I like all of those and have no problem to work in any of them, if that makes sense. Thanks

Again, your chosen field (energy) is wide and complex and they come in many forms as well as derived from many different sources.

Like I mentioned and suggested to you, start from the basics, take one step at a time to familiarize yourself with all the different fundamentals, understand them then you will be in a much better position to plan for your future?

As a starting point for example, you need to take several courses or subjects and learn their fundamentals. Courses like some chemistry subjects, physics, mechanics, thermodynamics, strength of materials, to mention a few. Couple those with the different mathematics subjects like plane /spherical trigo, calculus (differential and integral), differential equations (Laplace Transforms/ Fourier Series), and other engineering related mathematics.

The above courses should occupy, make you busy for at least two years. At that point you should already have some ideas which kind of energy is easier to tackle? Then you can decide what and where your concentration will be focused? You may have to add some fundamental courses on Electrical, Electronics, Mechanical, or even Nuclear to help in your choices..

Yes, thanks for your help. Do you have any link to know what different types of energy one can work in?Is it mandatory to specialize in one only?(I seem to like remewable the most, but don't know any:/)

To enable to reach point Z, one has to start from point A the starting point. If you are academically gifted, you may even skip point A and just jump straight maybe to B!

Unless of course you are filthy rich and just jump to point Z, by buying everything along the way! Third world countries are notorious for having what is called as "diploma mills" where degrees can be easily bought without attending or taking any courses!

You cannot specialize on anything without going through the introductory process, and going through the fundamentals are just the basic steps needed by a well rounded engineer. And those well trained engineers are the ones that become successful in their chosen field!

Excellent advice!....start with the basics and familiarize yourself with the different fundamentals of physical science, mathematics, engineering, technology.

If your goal is to avoid hard, difficult, challenging courses, by all means avoid science-technology-engineering-mathematics (STEM).

Instead, learn how to say "Would you like fries with that?" in different languages.

You will be much happier as your brain atrophies!

I'll do whatever it takes to be rich and happy!!;)

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Well, as long as you're doing it for the right reasons...

<sigh> When I see my friend dealing with weed and earning 8000$ a day.. I cry deep inside:(

Agreed, this would be discouraging... from a cash-in-hand point of view.

Is he really earning the money? From the standpoint of standing the risk, maybe.

What a great life that would be... on the run from the cops, ostracized from family, more than a few frightening health concerns, social standing amidst your incarcerated peers... there are a few CR4 members who can expand on this list, if you wish.

I doubt the $8000 a day is the net return, too. More than likely this is the gross sales. As for the risk, what does the OP think will happen when a day or two of traffic money or product disappears due to theft, accident, misplacement, or any of the other circumstances that insurance would normally cover.

While not in the 'trade', I suspect such a shortage of cash or merchandise might begin the exercise of the "frightening health concerns" clause.

You are seeking advice from a variety of very intelligent people representing many technical fields. If you wanna sound intelligent, you wanna get rid of the word wanna.

No matter what major you decide on, good communication skills are imperative.

Yes sir, got the point since many got it already pointed out. It was not my intention to sound "intelligent", I was in a hurry that day, and I apologize. I am sorry. Thanks

First, what do you want to do in energy? Research, manufacture, design installations, manage installations, repair, sales...lots of options, and each requires a unique skill set. Research probably will need a PHD. And have you decided to specialize in solar or wind or fusion or something else? If you just want to design solar installations, I wouldn't waste time and money on a degree, just take a good solar design course.

If you haven't decided exactly where your interests lie, I'd go for a BS in physics while you think about it. Physics is the basis for all science.

Where can I search what do I want to do in energy(any link that providese with options)?Is it mandatory to specialize in one kind of energy? Thanks for the help:)

The study of energy is called P H Y S I C S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes,but do you really think a degree in Physics would be more beneficial then an EE or ME degree?

For studying just energy, yes, Physics is the correct discipline. For applying or distributing electrical energy then an EE degree will be helpful. For using mechanical energy in useful ways, then a ME degree will be wise. Then there's Chemistry and the Petro-chemical disciplines for storage and release of stored energy. For living energy there's all of the biological disciplines, too.

As I said before, from how you phrase your questions I do not think you know enough yet about energy to give you a definitive answer of a career path to take. Giving you a career path now would just be a lie. I may tease on this forum but I very rarely blatantly lie.

Thanks,very helpful. And no, I don't.(Any links to provide me to narrow my choices down)? Thank you again

Anyone?

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"This sums it up: "I made this new thread and specified how I wanted the replies to be". You don't get to make the rules here, and you don't get to make them in life unless you are the parent or the professor or the boss.

You are a spoiled child. You don't want to expend any effort, and "I certainly won't pay some expert to give me an advice that may or not be true", but you come here demanding that this anonymous, free forum make life decisions for you.

One thing you will have to do if you intend to go into engineering is research/information gathering/plan formulation.

There are free sites for lost souls such as you. Search them out. I give this to you as an assignment, your first of many if you want to succeed in the real world.

It seems that you have not, to this point in your life, had many real world experiences.

Career Paths -Duke Energy

Thank you, I will take your advice. When someone ask an expert, they may be telling you lies just for money, but do you really think someone would tell me a lie on a forum where everybody is watching.. Thanks

I think that you have a lot to learn about life.

You are 17 years old and need to get a rounded education and not be preoccupied with money, as you are now.

You also cannot rely on strangers who know nothing about you, except that you are demanding that they plan your life for you.

Get over being rich and concentrate on being successful at whatever you do.

Excellent words, Lyn

Making money does not equal success, otherwise we would consider drug dealers and those involved in prostitution slavery successful.

Einstein's formula for success is still applicable:

Albert Einstein quotes

"If A equals success, then the formula is A equals X plus Y and Z, with X being work, Y play, and Z keeping your mouth shut."