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Eurobond Industries Pvt. Ltd.

08/12/2014 6:36 AM

Dear Sir,

We are having two wet iron ore grinding Ball mills. Both have same size of girth gear and pinion.

It has been observed that there is excess, non uniform wear on the girth gear teeth.

The wear point and the wear profile on all gear teeth are similar.

On visual inspection, it is very clear that the tooth profile of girth gear and pinion are not matching. The pressure angle of both gear and pinion teeth look different. As a result this problem has cropped up and the result is high vibration on the complete driving system.

The sizes of the girth gear and pinion details are as under:

a) Make of the Ball mill, girth gear &pinion: Chinese

b) For Ball mill sizes-

1. Primary Ball mill - 2700 mm dia. X 4000 mm length

2. Secondary Ball mill - 2700 dia. X 2700 mm length

c) Girth gear:

1. No. Of teeth - 178

2. Module - 20

3. PCD - 3560 mm

4. Face width - 400 mm

5. Material - Steel casting (grade - 45); Chinese standard

6. Hardness of the material - HB260 (BHN)

d) Pinion:

1. No. Of teeth - 21

2. Module - 20

3. PCD - 420 mm

4. Face width - 410 mm

5. Material - 40CrMo

6. Hardness - 55RC (induction hardened up to 2 mm depth)

We do not have the drawings and design of this gear from the supplier.

We are looking for the suitable solution to rectify this problem. In our opinion if the pinion profile of the new pinion is corrected, the things may improve.

You are therefore requested to depute your technical expert to inspect the wear profile, take the measurement of the tooth profile of both girth gear and pinion to establish the defect. And there after suitable rectification may be carried out.

Alternatively you may also provide the most appropriate solution as you find suitable.

We shall request you to depute your expert and submit the solution and offer at your earliest.

Thanks & Regard

Vikas Lakhera

Manager Purchase

EUROBOND INDUSTRIES PVT. LTD.

ISO 9001: 2008 Certified Company

Website:-www.eurobondindia.com

Plant/Production IOP Unit Head Office | Mumbai

Plot NO.18 -28 Industrial Area C-5, Gala & Shethia Enterprise Building,

Hargarh, Tahsil -Sihora, 3rd Floor, Road No.11 MIDC,

Distt. - Jabalpur (M.P.) INDIA Near Zenith House, Andheri (E),

IOP Jabalpur Office Plant/Production ACP Unit| Jammu

H.No.187, Sheetalpuri Colony EPIP, Kartholi, Bari Brahmana

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Re: Eurobond Industries Pvt. Ltd.

08/12/2014 6:50 AM

It is highly inadvisable to publish e-mail addresses and phone numbers in a public forum, lest spam-bots should capture and use them. It is also contrary to CR4's published Rules.

The best bet is to contact the supplier of the equipment so that it may address the concerns with its equipment directly. If there are other purchase leads pending, purchase orders pending and invoices pending with this firm, then use these as leverage in pursuit of a satisfactory solution.

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Re: Eurobond Industries Pvt. Ltd.

08/12/2014 8:10 AM

Why would anyone post this anonymously then put name and address on it?

Must spend too much time on this forum. Posted an email that should have gone to the manufacturer of the equipment here. Anyone see a question here?

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08/12/2014 9:29 AM

Sure, the question is "Can anybody do my job for me, for free?"

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08/12/2014 9:48 AM

Quite.

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08/12/2014 9:05 AM

I would request replacement parts and then send them to a machinist shop to have them analyzed...if the profiles on the replacements don't match, then have them corrected if possible....document each step....some compensation may be in order....

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Re: Eurobond Industries Pvt. Ltd.

08/13/2014 9:58 AM

The disparity in hardnesses between the girth and pinion is too large. Normally we would expect the pinion to be slightly harder than the girth because it sees so many more cycles per tooth etc due to the difference in diameters and rpms.

But with a girth Rc of 26 and a BHN of 555 for the pinion the disparity is too large and the girth will wear out first.

Normally we want the pinion to wear before the girth due to cost difference and ease of changing out the pinion as compared to changing out the girth.

I would harden the girth to about 50-52 Rc and leave the pinion hardness where it is.

Good Luck.

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