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PLC Millivolt Input Standards

08/18/2014 5:21 PM

This is likely an easy one for anyone who works with more modern PLC's and their related sensors.

I have a Scadapack 350 series PLC system that has four counter inputs. #0 is a standard 5 volt 5 ma open collector type but #1 and #2 are millivolt types setup for low voltage inputs.

Here is the problem. Presently someone else designed the system and is running standard magnetic reluctance type speed sensors directly into the #1 and #2 millivolt inputs which causes them to have very inaccurate readings due to what I feel is because they are being grossly overdriven on input voltage at the higher input signal frequencies. As tested our magnetic pickup units will put out 15 - 25 volts AC open circuit at the higher frequencies they need to work at.

Now that said I have tested our PLC inputs using a digital signal generator and they seem to have a very specific voltage bandwidth of ~.5 - ~1.2 volts. Any input signal above or below that seems to get ignored.

The problem as I am seeing it is when the millivolt inputs get over driven that far the high impedance inputs are saturating and not able to read the higher frequency rates with any accuracy.

So with that what is the present standard for millivolt type inputs now a days?

Back when I had my last PLC classes these were typically reserved for input signal of less than a volt at the most and the literature for our PLC systems does not give a specific range for these two inputs other than to say they are to be used for direct connection to standard millivolt output type sensor systems.

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Re: PLC millivolt input standards.

08/18/2014 5:59 PM

http://www.plcsystems.ru/catalog/SCADAPack/doc/SCADAPack350_Hardware_Manual.pdf

Page ~35 contains info on jumpers for low vs high level inputs. Page 84 gives the specs.

Hope this helps.

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08/18/2014 7:11 PM

Interesting being I have the exact same PDF as yours but mine ended after 'Maintenance' at page 76.

Now that I have read the specs it would appear that the way we are using the units is way overdriving the counter inputs as they are intended to be used.

The .4 to 1.5 volt typical valid input range almost perfectly matches the testing I have done and gives a very good explanation as to why they don't work so hot as the circuits are presently set up.

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08/19/2014 12:46 PM

Yeah, you will notice that it is ".ru". The Russians always have more complete manuals for our stuff than we do.

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08/19/2014 3:58 PM

I just figured that since the manual I have came from our company that our engineers edited it so that us field techs wouldn't have any ground reference material to stand on when it comes to us complaining that their design was wrong.

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08/19/2014 5:38 PM

I just remember working on the antiquated electronics in the U.S.M.C.; word had it that the Russians used to send us ECNs!

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