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09/20/2014 11:34 AM

I disagree, when driving, texting kills.... Literally.

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09/20/2014 12:31 PM

I don't know that you can pin-point the RF emission from a moving vehicle and be able to testify to that in court. Especially in moderate to heavy traffic.

There is a simple fix to stop texting and driving. Cell phone towers, that all this communication relay through, could have a simple software update that would shut down all communication from and to all cellphones that are traveling faster then 3MPH based on the GPS receiver in all cell phones.

I know, what if I'm a passenger.....tough, 40 years ago we lived with out this portable communication system, and there is no need for it to operate in a moving vehicle.

The difference between a drunk driver and a cell phone texter is the drunk is trying to drive. All bets are off if they're driving, texting, and drunk at the same time .

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09/20/2014 12:35 PM

Simple?, I don't know what that architecture platform is. I'd be more reserved using the term simple.

I agree with you on another part, I have my phone on vibrate. And I'll answer I reat it like my land line... When I had it. If I'm home, I'll answer it. And if I out and about, I never drop what I do to even look whose calling.

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09/20/2014 12:40 PM

I dont like his suggestion. I can/and have sent one and two word texts while driving at speed. its a real issue but stop the people who get distracted by whatever, not the good driver who takes 2 seconds to say, "okay"

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09/20/2014 12:57 PM

Again I disagree.

To text 'okay' you can easily traveled 200 feet.

If it means that much, stop the car and pull over.

Driving is a privilege not a right.

When I got my first cell phone back in the 90's and was expecting a phone call I pulled over to the side of the road to answer it. I stopped answering it all together 10 years ago. And if I was in the car when someone else driving and they got a phone call and was digging to get the cell, I offered to get it and then put it on silent, unusually girlfriends.

I've seen too many cars on the road driving chaotically just texting or talking on the dam phone.

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09/20/2014 1:40 PM

No!

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09/21/2014 9:45 AM

I understand there's complexities to this network software. But the GPS signal is already sent from the handset to the cell tower, and in the case of a 911 call is forwarded to the dispatcher. We don't know anything about the complexities of the NSA or FBI (substitute your countries law enforcement) that the cell phone data collection and forwarding real time of this communication system.

So I do think this is a simple change. Tougher is legislating it. And there will be loop holes, like folks that are chauffeur driven. Maybe even those that are tested for multitasking (I hope not).

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09/22/2014 5:53 PM

The system that was hyped to me for our fleet is a piece of equipment in the vehicle. -- JHF

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09/20/2014 1:39 PM

I disagree very strongly!!!!!

If you really want to know what 'Big Brother' is like, then come over to this side of the atlantic and see how often you are photo'd/video'd each hour of the day. I have to say that I do not object. If someone has something to be guilty about, let them object, but I will not!

Texting while you are driving is just downright stupid, ignorant and inconsiderate.

How dare you!!!!!!!

Words fail me beyond this!

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09/20/2014 4:01 PM

"If someone has something to be guilty about ..."

Therein lies the rub.

Assuming someone doesn't have 'something to be guilty about' is to assume the system works flawlessly and doesn't make mistakes. And, as the system is becoming increasingly automated, we all know (all too well, for we who've had any contact with computers at all), computer software inevitably makes mistakes. You cannot prove, moreover, that computer software is bug-free; you can only prove that it has bugs, and the more complex the software, the more bugs it has, known or not.

All this automated surveillance comes down to one thing: it doesn't matter whether you have 'something to be guilty about' or not - it is what the system thinks you're guilty of, and that is something altogether different.

Given the increasing levels of automation in terms of facial-recognition software, data-mining software, surveillance software and so forth and so on, on and on, it is becoming increasingly likely that somewhere along the line The System will make mistakes and innocent persons will find themselves in the pokey - or worse - and then it becomes The System vs The Presumed Guilty.

Who you gonna call then? A programmer?

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09/20/2014 10:27 PM

If you're texting while driving, you're breaking the law in my state. Ipso facto, the system doesn't have to make a mistake. The geographical position of a cell phone can be assigned to a particular text, which is time dependent. There's no excuse for driving carelessly. The experiments have been run, the wrecks cleaned off the pavement, the bodies bagged. I strongly suggest that it's a big exaggeration to say that computers make mistakes in any significant way that comes even CLOSE to the mistakes humans make while driving. And anyway, you're still innocent until proven guilty. If you're texting and driving, I hope you end up in jail before you kill me or my family.

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09/20/2014 11:37 PM

My reply is to the previous poster's comment (part of which I cite) about the abundance of surveillance cameras and the like in Great Britain, and the poster's personal take on *that.*

My comment is *not* about texting whilst driving - something to which I strongly object, btw. The context is 'Big Brother', not off-topic here, as the topic of Big Brother is the underlying thrust of this thread.

'The System' to which I refer in my post is clearly *not* the one which identifies drivers who text whilst driving. That technique involves a person in-the-loop, as made clear by the article itself and so hardly qualifies as a component of an *automated surveillance system* controlled by software - the one the previous poster and I were discussing.

Had you *actually read* my post, the comment to which I was replying, and the article, all of this would have been perfectly clear from the outset. From your response you evidently read nary a one.

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09/21/2014 11:53 AM

Not long back I was taking my daughter to the Dr.'s. We came to a 4 Way stop. I stopped and then started to go when I noticed a fast approaching brand new Caddy with a tiny gray haired lady driving. I slammed my brakes just in time to see her barely miss my front bumper by mere inches............. she had a cell phone on her ear, she was completely impervious to the STOP sign or the near miss with me. She just shot by and continued on down the road.

I am sure this story can be repeated across North America a hundred a thousand times each day.

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09/29/2014 4:56 PM

Then again, the UK seems to have become the ultimate 'nanny state,' Everyone's supposed to behave like good little children, don't fuss or fight or speak out of turn, keep your mittens clipped to your sleeves so they won't get lost, etc.

A few hundred years ago, things were quite different in the UK (in fact in all of Europe), people were quite different, more varied. Then came this Great Adventure, where people could risk death for a chance to stake a claim in a wild, untamed, dangerous land. Some people were tired of the status quo and rushed out to likely death, others were too afraid to make the trip and stayed put.

Holtz, you and I are both descendants from the people back then, the bored/crazy people who fled/were kicked out of Europe, and the safety-loving people who stayed.

You may call me crazy for disliking government surveillance over everything, but I ask you this; do you trust your government to always be looking out for your best interests? Or do you simply keep your head down, do what you're told, and walk through the streets with your collar turned up 'against the chill' when you're really trying to hide from the Unblinking Eyes ready to rat on you if you make even a tiny innocent mistake and set a toe out of line?

Are you certain that #ferguson can't happen there?

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09/20/2014 2:48 PM

Texting while driving is illegal in my province. Hands free devices are still legal. Passengers are not restricted. If an accident happened and your iphone has been checked and it was determined you were texting during the time of the accident, you face charges. And then you will be faced with law suits that may result from your careless actions. Far too many accidents have killed young people who were texting while driving. Still cars contain lots of devices other than phones to distract drivers.

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09/21/2014 4:42 AM

Most people who cause accidents probably start their defence by saying

"I only....

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09/21/2014 4:47 AM

Funny thing is...

A while back I was driving... lost... I got a call from the guy I was trying to get to.

I pulled up into a layby to take the call and the A-hole who was tailgating me blasted his horn and pulled up alongside (blocking the road) gesticulating and shouting abuse!
It beggars belief!

Of course he'd have just taken the call whilst driving!
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09/21/2014 11:59 AM

.... and about that time you step out, pull out one of your famous Long Bows, notch up a "Terminator" arrow and ask him to point his nasty finger at which tire he wants flattened... ha ha ha !

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09/23/2014 8:21 AM

A young lady actually told me to f*ck off [gave me the finger] when I honked my horn at her after I noticed that she was steering her minivan full of kids with her left knee and texting at 80 kph. I know the temptation to stay in touch is huge, but where is her responsibility to other drivers on the road?

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09/23/2014 3:32 PM

but where is her responsibility to other drivers on the road?

Or her minivan full of kids.

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09/21/2014 7:44 AM

And what about voice activated text? I text with people driving, that have voice activated texting, hand-off systems in their car. Is that illegal too? I don't want distracted drivers either, but some of the voice activated systems work well. My car has a hands-off cell phone connection. When I start the car and have the cell phone within range, it connects to the car via Blue Tooth, then to answer a call I just press a button on the steering wheel, and speak. To make a call I can use voice activated but I don't like that, as I find it distracting, so I pull over to make calls.

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09/22/2014 10:15 AM

And also how about Automated texts?

When my phone 'sees' that I am driving (aka, when it has a bluetooth connection to my handsfree device) Any incoming text gets an immediate reply:

Auto-reply (from the auto): Driving, will reply ASAP.

That gets sent back in less time than it took for my phone to give be a hip-buzz that a text came in. Total distraction: less than an itchy nose.

Unless they are intercepting the texts and snooping into them (4th amendment Violation right there) they have no way of telling if it was a hand-sent text, an automated reply, or if it was the driver or a passenger sending the text (although if you're alone in the car, they can rule out a passenger manning the phone, unless you can convince them that you carpool with Harvey, the invisible rabbit from the play of the same name).

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09/21/2014 8:24 AM

I am from the "old school",where common sense was a lot more common than it is now.

I lived over 65 years without a cell phone,and seldom use the one I have now, which

was given to me by my grandson because he thought I needed it.

Obviously you have never been forced off the road by a texting driver,looking at the cell phone while drifting into your lane.

60 MPH is 88 Feet per second.

1/10 of a second can be the difference in a collision or a near collision.

I avoided a collision with a texting driver, by mere inches,so yes, 1/100 of a second can make a difference.

I do believe however,that Big Brother can go too far,such as storing everyone's emails,without a warrant,but texting while driving is like waving a loaded gun in public.

There is an imminent danger to people in the other lane.

A vehicle can be considered a multi-ton kinetic bomb,and it should be guided carefully and responsibly.

The computers on cars have a real time "black box" built in,and cell towers have a record of all calls,and the precise time of the calls,so linking a texting driver to an accident is already possible.

However,this is after the damage has been done,lives have been lost,families destroyed.

A method of preempting this is to be desired and accepted.

I do not wish for you to get into an accident because of a texting driver,but if you

ever have a very close call,your attitude may change.

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09/21/2014 8:47 AM

distractions should be minimized for ALL drivers, not just evil teens. my entire point is about the "big brother" aspect. here in California there are areas you can't drive 15 minutes without running through intersections with "red light" cameras.just because I oppose the use of these doesn't mean I support the practice of running red lights. I've driven California freeways since 1975, usually driving trucks or service vans and have never had a collision. so some of the idiotic responses this thread has produced are just too "holier than thou". I'm a member of the real world, perfection is an unattainable goal but some might think that forcing nonsense laws on otherwise responsible people is a solution. I think its over the top.

scanning all passing cars so you can detect when someone presses "Enter"isn't going to protect anyone, its just another example of an electronic shakedown ......do you really want a government that engages in a practice like this?

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09/21/2014 8:54 AM

Then use that as the point of an argument for your case.

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09/21/2014 9:03 AM

There is certainly questionable legislation and practices all over the place. But legislation that is designed to prevent idiots from killing innocent victims is not "Big Brother", it is "civilization".

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09/21/2014 9:57 AM

"SHAKEDOWN"???

I was on a very deserted beach, in my truck, going seining late in the afternoon. Something we had done for years. Tall marsh grass on one side of the beach, the Gulf of Mexico on the other. Very beautiful and deserted as usual.

Suddenly a cop car pulls up behind and stops me. He writes me up for driving on the wrong side of the highway, against traffic. Highway? Traffic?? I see sea shells, some drift wood, a few dead fish...

He points to a 6" x6" sign at the edge of the marsh . Yep, its a tiny yellow highway sign with a number I can not read. It was just put up this year he informs me.

So where are the lines, the lanes, the road markers? I ask him what happens to the "highway" at high tide? He replies, "it gets mighty narrow...here's your ticket".

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09/21/2014 10:20 AM

I know what you mean.

I was driving along the interstate,and a bird flew up from a cow pasture and did not gain enough altitude,and hit my windshield,right about eye-level.

And for some reason,stuck right there.

Instinctively,I turned on my wipers,and they flipped it over the car and it struck the car behind me.

As fate would have it, it was an unmarked Highway Patrol car.

I was pulled over and given a ticket.

I learned my lesson:

Next time I wont turn on my wipers.

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09/21/2014 8:44 AM

Some years ago my son, a certified welder with a dream job, making $21/hour working for the largest oilfield contracting company in Louisiana, was hit broadside by a 17 year old girl on a cell phone as she ran a red light.

Their lawyer tore him to pieces in court as could not answer much except that he was crossing over on a GREEN light when he saw her barreling at him in the middle of the intersection. She denied the cell phone use and claimed that the time and date stamp on her Cell phone bill was inaccurate. She said the phone "ghost dialed" her boy friend's number. The boyfriend corroborated. * The Paramedic and I both heard her say in the ambulance, that she was on the phone with him at the time of the wreck, arguing and had been cut off by the accident . Did not matter, their lawyer tore into him and literally left him looking like a deer in the headlights.The jury went with her story of Ghost dialing and that she was on a GREEN light.

Short version. At 34 years old now, with a damaged pelvis, crooked foot with a brace built in his left shoe, minor memory lapses and one leg so twisted its .75" shorter then the other....he works for minimum wage.

The real insult to justice came when they sued me because my name was on the truck title. Our insurance only covered so much and then it came on us. We have been paying every month since on the settlement and we still have several thousand left in court costs and legal fees.

Cell phone use in any form while driving?? It should be so strictly enforced that a first offense cost you a couple of paychecks . A second puts you behind bars for a month. Any more offenses and your license gets revoked for life. Harsh? Not at all. Texting and even cell use kills more folks than drunk drivers do. BAN IT while driving and enforce it any way you can.

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09/21/2014 8:53 AM

And this is why attorneys are vilified, and rightly so.

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Lawyers are the most despised group in this country, and for good reason: they earned it. Sociopaths by any other name.

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We showed up with Mr. Rogers and they brought in Rambo. It took me years to get over the @$$ beating we took in that court room. I do not fret so much any more except when I hear about accidents caused by cell phones.

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I've been witness to two accidents caused by cell-phone usage. Neither driver was texting, but simply talking on their phone at the time.

One driver was a well-scrubbed soccer-mum ditz with the pink ballcap and her blonde ponytail coming out just so, somewhat ahead of me and in the lane to my left, yakking away on her phone, oblivious.

I happened to be looking in her direction just as she realised evidently that she wanted to take that exit (which we had just passed), and suddenly veered across the three lanes of moderate traffic moving at 50 MPH, only to miss the exit and strike the concrete Jersey barrier just beyond.

Her car, a shiny, new Cadillac SUV, bounced back out into the stream of traffic, was struck by two other cars and ended up on the left-hand shoulder after sliding along the center barrier, facing traffic. Nobody was injured as far as I could tell. Traffic came to a standstill for the next hour and a half as emergency crews worked to clear the mess.

The second accident was actually pretty funny because it was so pathetic. I was riding in a coworker's car along with four others and we were all coming back from lunch. We were first in line at a traffic signal, in the right lane whilst Dufus & Co. (she had carload also) were first in line in the lane to our left. It was early spring and our windows were down, and so were hers, and so we could not only see everything that went on, but hear it as well.

The arrow turned green for the cars opposite us and they started turning. She, meanwhile, was yakking on the phone and oblivious to everything. When the cars opposite started moving, she evidently interpreted their motion as a sign that it was time to go and stepped on the gas, only to collide with a turning car.

Then, to make matters worse, she slammed her car into reverse and stomped on the gas, ramming the car behind her. Then, without taking her car out of gear, she put her head on the steering wheel and started crying whilst everyone in our car were laughing our arses off and making no secret of it. Her passengers glared at us and made various hand gestures in reply to our unbridled heartlessness. There are certain advantages to having front-row seats, and we had the best seats in town.

Eventually our light turned green and she, having not realised that her car was still in gear, punched the gas a third time and rammed the car behind her yet again.

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09/21/2014 8:24 PM

I AM STILL LAUGHING!!! We need a thread JUST FOR THESE type idiot driver stories....I appreciate that no one was seriously injured but I bet the lawsuits just piled one on top of the other....including her friends in the car!

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09/22/2014 6:51 PM

In Green Bay Wisconsin, I was eating at a restaurant down town, (financial district) and also where a lot of the attorneys offices are located.

Anyways, I was listen to two attorneys eating at the table next to me, and they worked out a deal on whose turn it is to come out better this time on a divorce hearing. I guess it's a game that consists with a wink of the eye between attorneys where it's settled before the trial even begins.

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09/21/2014 9:28 AM

I am against this Big Brother concept as much as anyone, but the fact is it's here. There is no way I can see the USA banning any of this and in fact, I would suspect with all of the uproar about terrorism these days....maybe even increasing it. It's easy to see that the world is now a dangerous place. Maybe, just maybe....one of these Spying Eyes will spot more than just a texting driver.

Anyway, everybody on CR4 is still entitled to an opinion. That is what makes this place so unique.

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09/21/2014 10:43 AM

Allow me to add to your concerns:

Every mail piece that is sent has an image lifted of the front side and is used for processing the mail piece.

This mail piece can be tracked according to the time it entered the first machine to the destination.

These images are supposed to be deleted after a 30 day max period.

Want to bet they are offloaded to a long term storage facility?

So Big Brother knows who you sent a letter to, and when.

A relational database can be established this way.

So far,they cannot read the contents without opening the envelope,(That I know of),

but it is theoretically possible using various laser frequencies and amplitudes.

Electronic leakage from keyboards can be captured at a distance,your phone can be used as a listening device without your knowledge,even when hung up.

You web cam can be monitored without your knowledge,all your purchases are recorded,unless at a yard sale for cash.

Just a matter of time before the put RFID into paper money.

Some countries already use bar codes on their bills.

Eventually paper money will disappear.

Plastic cards will disappear.

A unique identifier will be implanted into everyone that cannot be duplicated,because it will record your unique brain wave pattern when installed, and will not function if outside of the body or disconnected from the constant "handshake" between it and your brain.

You will not need a register at any store,simply put your items in your card and walk out.

Charges will be automatically debited from your account.

There will be resistance to this at first,but the way you boil a frog is put him in cold

water,and slowly increase the temperature.

Before he realizes it, he is cooked.

As the older generation dies off, it will become easier to ramp up the temperature rate.

The ultimate fate of mankind may be similar to the Borg.

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09/21/2014 11:34 AM

....and that is what we as "everyday citizens" can discover.

Wanna' bet there is soooo much more that is being done?

Its a new world out there and the thought of some "isolated" person living in the old ways is something you might have to travel to New Guinea to find.

Drones over head, miles away, can snap a photo of you in your back yard . Those electronic dishes can let you hear your neighbors arguing inside their home. I was told that some police scanners can pick up conversations on a wireless "land line" phone ? ? ? My wife's van can be located almost anywhere in the USA....my old '78 Chevy truck can not..... Secure? Privacy? .. ... non-existent any longer.

I did not know about the mail....that is something new for me.

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09/21/2014 9:32 PM

Look on the back of a first class mail envelope and you will see an orange bar code.

Ever wonder what that is for?

Canadian mail has them too,but a different color.

Both of the colors are fluorescent.

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09/21/2014 9:54 PM

The orange Identification Code is printed on the back of envelopes for Remote ZIP Encoding (human ZIP Code readers contracted for the purpose). Each barcode uniquely identifies individual mail pieces and is applied to letter mail when high-speed sorters cannot correctly read address image information necessary to apply other routing and postage barcodes.

The physical mailpiece bearing the orange code remains at the mail processing center and the scanned image is sent to a Remote Encoding Center where human operators read the scanned image, key in the correct ZIP code information then send the info back to the originating mail center where it is matched with the envelope bearing the orange tag, so that the mailpiece can continue automated processing.

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09/22/2014 12:07 PM

This is the method I referred to giving the ability to know date,time,sequential mail piece number of each mail piece,and through which machine the mail was put into the processing stream.

All mail pieces get this ID tag bar code, regardless of whether the image is resolved locally or remotely.

The remote coding operators do not key in the proper zip,they merely key what they see,and this information is processed by on-site computers and assigned the proper zip code (11 digit).

This result is ,as you stated,sent back to the origination site and stored for when the mail makes a second pass through the machine.

The image lifting and ID tag assignment allows the possible archive of all mail piece images,not just those that are remotely encoded.

A 3TB hard drive can store 3 billion images.

Imagine just one single RAID with 32ea. 3G hard drives.

Wonder how many RAIDs the government's new facility will hold?

And when configured in a large RAID,written in stripes the information is virtually

impossible to lose,due to CRC's, even if multiple drives fail or are removed ,and the

fact that only a single bit of each word of data is stored on each drive.

20th century privacy is now just a memory of the previous generation, and the

present and future generations will not know or miss.

"Resistance in futile." quote the BORG.

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My girlfriend works at the Green Bay Wisconsin Hub, and yes it is traceable.

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09/22/2014 10:23 AM

"A text message, phone call and data transfer emit different frequencies that can be distinguished by the device ComSonics is working on, according to McIntyre."

I call BS on this!

Phone calls and data transfer use different frequencies from each other, but text messages use the 'handshaking' signal the phones and the towers transmit back and forth. That is why there is the 140 character limit, that's the size of the 'reserved for future uses' block that was designed into the handshaking message.

That's also why I'm against charges per text message, the text messages but ZERO burden on the bandwidth or equipment, it would be like me adding a 'sunshine' surcharge to walk in front of my house because I told people they could work on their tans while traveling by.

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09/22/2014 10:29 AM

Just noticed that the company making this got their start in Cable TV.

That explains the lack of 'but wait, there can be legitimate reasons that these frequencies could be used' thinking on their part.

Is there something about the cable TV industry that just robs people of any sense of Ethics, Decency, or Legality?

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You'll never catch me getting a tan - I write software.

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I suppose you eat a diet of 'Hot Pockets' too.

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09/22/2014 3:10 PM

I've been hit twice by texters while stopped at a traffic light. Once destroyed my car, once just a scratch. Luckily both times nobody was injured. It really torques me off when I see people texting while driving, so I am for it, even though the thought of more government intrusion really bugs me.

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09/23/2014 7:23 AM

I don't like the "big brother/ revenue collection" aspect of this, but these people, whether texting or talking, are a real hazard.

I think cars should be equipped with mini jammers that block signals when the car is in drive, but shut off when the car is in park, allowing calling and texting.

Small, cheap and easy.

http://www.cellphone-jammers.org/cigaretter-type-mini-cell-phone-signal-jammer-p-150.html

Build it right into the car:

http://www.cellphone-jammers.org/mini-portable-cell-phone-signal-jammer-p-152.html

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09/23/2014 8:04 AM

do passengers get an exempt button or is texting that big of a problem that we need to go to this length to force compliance?

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09/23/2014 4:34 PM

I'll admit, this is a tough call, but we're losing at least one young person a week, just in my area, due to talking or texting...not to mention that I personally witness these people every day, either hitting brakes or drifting all over hell as they deal with their stupid phones.

Unfortunately, the nanny state has given rise to a need for an increased nanny state, in some instances. People have so lost the instinct of common sense self preservation and survival, that when they're killing and maiming themselves and others, they look up and probably have no freaking concept of what's happening, or even that they are the cause.

Bottom line?

As a society, we are raising people to be so ignorant, clueless and stupid, and there are so many of them, that it requires a certain degree of "nannyism" just to prevent complete mayhem.

It sucks to think that not too long ago, kids could walk around with loaded guns and it wasn't a big deal...now they are considered children until they're 30.

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...now they are considered children until they're 30

Yes, except they have the right to vote too.

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09/23/2014 6:22 PM

My neighbor's kid (26) recently moved back home after dropping out of college. He can't find a job, but he was in college long enough to learn that capitalism and rich people suck.

Ain't it grand? His Dad is so proud of him. Not.

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09/23/2014 4:58 PM

no question its an issue, all of us have witnessed irresponsibility/stupidity.I just don't support this method for ensnaring those that text while in a car

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09/23/2014 6:18 PM

I can't justify paying a cop $40 - $70 K a year to sit on the side of the road with a text busting gun, while waiting to retire at 50 and collect his/her pension for the rest of their lives.

There are better, less intrusive ways...but it's gotta stop.

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09/29/2014 4:40 PM

"People have so lost the instinct of common sense self preservation and survival, that when they're killing and maiming themselves and others, they look up and probably have no freaking concept of what's happening, or even that they are the cause."

Looks like this gene pool could use some chlorine.

"It sucks to think that not too long ago, kids could walk around with loaded guns and it wasn't a big deal...now they are considered children until they're 30."

30? Heck, there are some STATES where is seems like the citizens act like and are treated as children their entire life, cradle to grave.

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Here's a little something that made me laugh and I thought I share it with some of my friends who thinks using your cell phone and driving is ok.

Not that a cell phone had anything to do with it, but it is hilarious/

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Tears are still running down my face.

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09/29/2014 5:09 PM

Would have been even better if at the end, he recognized the guy getting beat up as the same guy he was leaving a message for.

I was just waiting for a punch line like that.

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12/13/2014 10:07 PM

I hate texting. Its rediculously slow compared to talking.

But I think the text detector is a bad idea. Local municipalities are going to use it as a revenue enhancer. Even if it was a passenger doing the texting, you know there will still be a steady stream of out-of-state victims paying the ticket rather than arguing in court.

Plus, as a product, its a bad idea because it is already technically obsolete due to hands free systems and emerging self driving cars.

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