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Material Specfication

10/15/2014 7:43 AM

Dear ALL,

In a Piping line with spec material of Carbon Steel, can we install Venturi flow element of the same material or do we need to go to higher grade material for the entire Venturi tube

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Re: Material Specfication

10/15/2014 10:44 AM

You remind me of some instrumentation engineers I worked with in the past. Stainless steel orifice plates in carbon steel, so we must use something 'higher' in stainless steel piping. Also had to explain to some process engineers that we needed to understand the environment the material was in. Sometimes, carbon steel is a better selection than stainless steel.

So, without knowing what service your venturi tube is in, no one can properly answer your inquiry.

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Re: Material Specfication

10/16/2014 1:30 AM

Fluid is extra Light Arabian Crude (AXL),42.0" Tube Requirement

Pipe spec for Gate Valve is Trim 8 , Stellite Hard Faced,That is Pressure Bearing / Retaining Parts .

venturi tube i belive no pressure bearing parts, so thought of Carbon steel Body

Company is looking some cost cutting solution

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10/16/2014 12:44 PM

I agree with srini. Maybe Iris will show up.

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10/17/2014 12:07 AM

If it is a 42" pipe line with petroleum being transferred in it, THIS IS DEFINETLY NOT THE PLACE TO ASK SUCH A QUESTION. There are numerous codes that must be complied with. These are for obvious reasons, especially leakage and catastrophic failure. A 42" line will make a great big gusher and the expensive clean up costs if it leaks. That would certainly not be cost cutting!

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10/20/2014 2:32 AM

Josej, If you ask the Vendor to machine and fabricate the Venturi to match minimum pipe thickness (schedule) as per Piping Material Specification, then you can proceed ahead with Carbon Steel.

Ensure to meet the specification of O'let fittings for the taps as per Material Specification. Also, If you plan to procure root valves along with the Venturi, that should strictly meet the material specification including trim and type.

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10/27/2014 2:07 AM

It wouldn't cost anything to omit it completely!

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10/15/2014 6:47 PM

Yes, no.

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10/15/2014 10:40 PM

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10/15/2014 11:14 PM

In most piping situations, using materials of the same composition is preferred. If for no other reason they both react in the same way. There are several other reasons but too long to list and explain them. Yes, its OK.

No, unless there is some very strong reason to use some other material. It is usually a waste of money and in some cases can be more difficult to weld.

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Re: Material Specfication

10/16/2014 9:37 AM

Some people use all carbon steel ,and some use carbon steel for the converging and diverging section and use stainless at the throat.

I guess this to keep the throat section clear of any corrosion etc ,similar to the sharp edge of the orifice plate.

Mostly the converging and diverging section will be fabricated from plates which is different spec than the pipe spec which may be something like 5L.

It is important to make sure that the wall thickness of the venturi meets or exceeds the wall thickness of pipe including any corrosion allowance.

In short the venturi must meet the design Pressur and Temperature of the piping system

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10/23/2014 2:37 AM

It all works with the corrosion/ errosion of the throat of venturi what velocity is achieved at the throat of the venturi , it determine the errosion rate of the material

http://pipeng.com/index.php/ts/itdmotflow007d/

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