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Burying Pre-Insulated Tubing

11/04/2014 12:35 PM

I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this, but there were a lot of threads about buried pipe, so here goes.

A customer would like to bury pre-insulated tubing. His job is in Wyoming and the tubing will be used as a drain from a compressed air system. The tubing in question is 316 stainless steel, seamless 1/2" .035 wall. The insulation will be Aerogels which is hydrophobic. The jacket is FR- PVC. So, if he doesn't wish to use a conduit, is there a particular type of bedding and back-fill material he should be considering? Would a different jacket be a better choice?

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Re: Burying Pre-Inuslated Tubing

11/04/2014 12:41 PM

Sounds like a lot of trouble just to drain the snot out of a condenser.

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Re: Burying Pre-Inuslated Tubing

11/04/2014 1:41 PM

Local knowledge is missing here, as well as the reason to insulate a waste water drain line.

What is your role in this?

My first thought was to direct the customer to the tubing supplier, unless that's you.

Still seems a bit much.

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Re: Burying Pre-Inuslated Tubing

11/04/2014 2:33 PM

Condensate from a air compressor will need to be filtered. As it will have oil in it. That will clog the drain line. The oil forms an emulsified brown goo of oil and water that will clog the line. Standard filters for the compressor condensate does not remove it all.

Sounds like he concerned about freezing. I would run PVC pipe with elbows used for pulling wire. And pull plastic tube down it for the condensate. That way if it does clog up from the goo or freezing it's an easy fix.

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Re: Burying Pre-Inuslated Tubing

11/04/2014 3:31 PM

A better choice of material entirely would be the insulated poly pipe system commonly used for running water from outdoor wood fired boilers to houses and barns- it's designed for direct burial and can be easily cleaned out, with far less risk of kinking than SS tube. It comes as a pair of poly tubes inside a 4" (or so) corrugated flexible drain type pipe, with insulation filled around the inner piping. Might even be cheaper!

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11/05/2014 10:15 AM

Just use Hydrodare pipe. Specifically designed joint less, and in any run length you want. And it is widely used for drainage and water piping. No trouble in direct burial in any soil type.

http://www.goodwins.ie/c-758-hydrodare-polythene-pipe-fittings.aspx

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Re: Burying Pre-Insulated Tubing

11/06/2014 12:41 PM

Thanks everyone for your input. As it turns out, the tubing is to be electric traced and the customer has decided to use conduit to run it. I assume they have also worked out the issue of the bedding and back fill since that will need to be considered with the conduit as well.

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