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11/06/2014 3:36 PM

Yet another "what is it" from me where I don't have a clue what the answer is.

This was about a year ago, maybe more but I just got round to trying to figure out what I'd seen. I decided to film a dramatic hail storm through the back window. Suddenly I very clearly saw something run down from the top of the fence and along the path. I say I saw it clearly because I remember seeing it all the way from the top of the fence 'til it disappeared. Curiously the recording does not show anything until the object is near the bottom of the fence; however for reasons which I suspect will become obvious I am pretty sure that I was watching the screen of the camera rather than "real life"

The whole sequence took about a second or two.

Nothing visible

Half way between the top of the picture and the greenery far left

Just above the greenery

Half way down the greenery

This is the best close up I could get from any of the freeze frames:-

I do have one idea but I'll wait to see what other people think.

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11/06/2014 4:00 PM

Was an inspection of the supposed path made, in an attempt to discover physical evidence of, and possible identification of, a creature... like tracks?

Did you also see a moose?

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11/06/2014 4:17 PM

No: there would have been no evidence, the hail storm was very violent.

And: No. A moose in a garden in England?? There is obviously some reference here I'm unaware of.

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11/06/2014 4:40 PM

Moose and Squirrel will usually be seen traveling together.

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11/07/2014 2:31 PM

Thanks.

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11/06/2014 11:57 PM

You must not have much hail there! I don't think of a hail storm as violent unless the hail stones are approaching golf-ball size. I have seen hail stones that were 100mm in diameter, out on the plains of Colorado.

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11/07/2014 2:36 PM

Only a handful a year, and, rarely as bad as this one was.

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11/06/2014 4:19 PM

It's a bug on the lens....

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11/07/2014 2:46 PM

My best guess was a pollen grain on the lens, but, I think RedFred has it at #4.

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11/06/2014 4:19 PM

My WAG is that this anomaly is an out of focus water drop on the glass of the window. The brown color is the brown fence in the background.

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11/06/2014 11:46 PM

I think you've got it!

If you study the positions of the fence posts etc., you can verify that the camera WAS moving sideways. A water droplet on the glass will effectively be a plano-convex lens with a very short focal length, akin to a fish-eye lens, but not focused, so you see a blurry image of (mostly) a large amount of fence through the droplet.

The droplet appears to be moving from left to right, so the camera was actually moving from right to left.

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11/07/2014 2:58 PM

I think so too, but, I think that the main cause of the movement was probably the wind blowing the droplet along the window rather than the camera moving (I cut all the pictures above out of a much larger image, so I don't think it's possible to accurately judge the movement of the camera). But I could easily be wrong.

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11/07/2014 2:49 PM

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11/06/2014 4:30 PM

A bird. Flying thru the images.

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11/07/2014 3:01 PM

I don't think so: I think I would have definitely seen it "in real life".

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11/06/2014 4:54 PM

A year ago, Autumn? a fallen leaf blowing in the wind?

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11/07/2014 3:03 PM

Don't think so: a leaf would have been hammered to the ground by the hail.

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11/06/2014 5:33 PM

Could it be a Hail Mary?

What the hail is it?

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11/07/2014 3:36 PM

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11/06/2014 5:37 PM

How many frames per second? I suspect that it wasn't one single object, it was a series of hailstones falling close to the window.

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11/07/2014 3:28 PM

How many frames per second?

This is embarrassing: I haven't a clue. I took the video on my Archos 50 Platinum, and I can't find a spec. for the frame rate anywhere.

Otherwise no the playback definitely shows a single "object" moving smoothly across the screen.

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11/06/2014 7:36 PM

My guess is water (out of focus) on the glass between you and the storm. If you closely look at the second frame, you will also see a brown smudge at the RHS middle of greenery that can also be followed in the later frames.

The one that caught your eye was probably a water film that developed into a single drop and was then blown sideways across the window. (Presuming prevailing wind from Left to right.)

Later in the sequence of frames, there is another (third) smudge that develops almost centre of frame.

I guess that the item of interest developed in the wind shadow of the window frame (the reason it was able to form a drop that blew sideways) while the others are in the wind zone and are being flattened.

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11/07/2014 3:30 PM

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11/07/2014 8:38 PM

I agree. The falling hail shows as a streak indicating that the wind was blowing in direction you surmised. GA

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11/07/2014 9:41 PM

I'm not so sure! In the second frame, the hail streak is very nearly vertical, perhaps a bit to the left as it falls. By the fifth frame, the hail is clearly moving down and to the right, so the wind above the house was clearly changing.

Of course the wind can and will swirl all sorts of ways around houses, fences, window frames, etc. So the direction the wind blows on a given point on the window can be quite different for that of the wind that gave the hail its direction of fall.

Presumably, the camera was pretty close to the window, to get a better view outside. In that case a very small motion of the camera past the window would produce a rapid motion of anything on the window. As I indicated in a previous post, my best guess (and it's no more than that) is that the drop was essentially at rest on the window as the camera moved past it.

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11/09/2014 5:14 AM

I'm not so sure! In the second frame, the hail streak is very nearly vertical

Yes I saw that too. But you will also see that the assumed drop is moving down vertically for the frames 1,2,3. and then goes across to the right as the falling hail goes to the right. To my mind this seems to be a confirming consistency. Randall did say that these are enlarged stills from a sequence taken from a movie where the camera was held still. This would tend to support the argument that the drop was being moved, not the camera. The direction of the hail streaks gives a hint as to what the wind MAY have been doing. Any way I am enjoying this exercise as it is not just hair splitting but also a good exercise in forensic hypothesis.

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11/06/2014 9:15 PM

Its an invisible shapeshifter that got cought out by the hail and your camera.

You do believe in aliens, don't you?

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11/07/2014 3:33 PM

You do believe in aliens, don't you?

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11/06/2014 10:17 PM

Either of:

1. water on the window that causes it to be blurry since it is out of focus vs. the fence. As the camera or the water drop moves the mystery item appears to move.

2. A brown gremlin vs. the green type doing handstands to confuse you as it tries to steal your leaves off the ivy.

3. Too much Jameson's.

4. Too many pints of Dab

5. The lens needs cleaned,

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11/07/2014 3:36 PM

1. Yes

I'll go for the Jameson's tonight.

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11/06/2014 10:26 PM

Obviously, the Spring-Heeled Jack has been caught on video for the first time. Never mind the absence of the blue and white flames and the eyes like balls of Hell's fire. It's likely these where suppressed by the hail storm. Did the camera's audio happen to pick up laughter?

He's a lot smaller that I thought he would be. Based on the reports in the late 1800's I figured he would be the size of a man.You just can't trust eye-witness testimonies. People let their imagination run wild sometimes, I suppose.

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11/07/2014 2:37 AM

A bit early for the Easter Wabbit...

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11/07/2014 8:03 AM

Did somebody Feed GIZMO again?!!?

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11/07/2014 12:00 PM

We should be able to attach MP3s, but for now here you go:

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11/07/2014 12:13 PM

Do you have a McDonalds nearby? It may have been dislodged from the grill vent fan during the storm.

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11/07/2014 3:46 PM

Barchetta, Hilton, corbinstein, Unredundant:- Stranger things have happened.
Yahlasit:- Sorry, I'm too stupid my education isn't good enough for me to read music.

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