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Sails Thickness

12/18/2014 1:18 AM

Dear all. for some reason I need to know the thickness of sails.

I need a very high resistance material for sails,but as I searched for information there was no reference for the thickness of the material.

Is there any standard ?

For my purpose I need a sail about 5*4 m' that will withsand wind about 40m'/sec!

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12/18/2014 1:56 AM

Have you ever heard of a measuring tool caller a "micrometer", Boss?

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12/18/2014 2:15 AM

90 mph ? You need a life jacket !

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12/18/2014 3:10 AM

More a helmet given he is into land travel!

And if you go with the wind . . .

... you know what I mean!

And 40'm/sec could also be 30 mph given the "m" was a mistake!

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12/18/2014 3:18 AM

This could be going anywhere .

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12/18/2014 7:33 AM

After I pressed the send button I realized that my question was really stupid because the sail's angel isn't perpendicular to the wind, it should be much more like 30 degrees, and anyway it won't be a flat board rather a normal curves sail in the wind.

But my question stays the same: How thick is the sail?

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12/18/2014 9:47 AM

Commonly called sailcloth, there are dozens of different kinds.

Search the term, you should be able to find out more.

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12/18/2014 3:13 AM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forces_on_sails

I think thickness is not the right expression for sails and is rather expressed by weight.

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12/18/2014 10:17 AM

Typical Dacron sail about .5 mm....

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12/18/2014 10:34 AM

Toda raba- means thank you very much in Hebrew!

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12/18/2014 11:27 AM

Dacron is not the only fiber used. Fabric is by weight a square yard. The type of fabric used and it's weight depends on the boat size and the sail.

I wouldn't want to have to up right a sunfish with a Dacron sail on it when Nylon be much lighter.

Also other fabrics have come along use for sail cloth. Kevlar and Spectra to name a couple.

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12/18/2014 12:44 PM

I sail every summer, its a blast. my buddy has a rather high end 37 footer. it came with a racing grade sail. basically it was a sandwich of 2 sheets of typical sail cloth with a thin sheet of a Mylar in the middle.regular cloth "leaks" I'd contact a sail maker, there's more to them than you'd think.

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12/18/2014 4:14 PM

Dang traditionalists !

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12/18/2014 2:03 PM

I thought sail cloth material use varies with application (and how much you want to spend and how much weight you can accept).

What's the application exactly?

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12/18/2014 9:18 PM

Pyramids building and alien travel in space.

Its the new to come space sail blown by solar wind . . .

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12/18/2014 11:59 PM

The mainsails, running jibs and genoa jibs are Dacron with a thickness of 0.007" on my longer sailboats. The spinnakers are nylon but they are being cleaned right now so I can't measure their thickness now. The smallest, a sunfish, has a nylon sail and it too is being cleaned (a note of interest - the sailmaker where I take them to be cleaned and repaired sends them out to a "Persian rug" fabricator and cleaner. They are gently hand washed in place, no washing machine).

On most recreational sailboats, excluding such types as the 12 meters and high tech customs, the working sails are Dacron. Among other things, it is used because it is nearly rot proof, resistant to stretch, can be sewn on an ordinary sewing machine, low cost and good strength. It is the material most often supplied by boat manufacturers for new sailboats. There are other materials used but usually much costlier.

Nylon or other "stretchable" clothes are usually used for sails that stretching is an advantage. As the wind increases the area of the sail increases, as long as the cloth and lines are strong enough. Some, such as spinnakers, use this property to their advantage. Nylon is strong, lightweight, usually easy to repair, etc. Sunfish use nylon for its low cost compared to other cloths, stretchability, and can usually handle abuse.

Different sail materials are used for different things and many do more than one thing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sailcloth#Polyester_.28PET.29

http://www.pdracer.com/sail/material/

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12/19/2014 8:12 AM

Good answer! Informative and to the point.

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12/19/2014 1:44 PM

Hi Az

I worked in Quality control in industrial for many years and some of the parts does not have any standard, I made a own standard, but how?

I find the position and task which the part should be work, such as corrosion, tension, creep,..

second, I find max of the task for example 10 mpa tension, and 120 hr( salt spray 25c).

Third, find a suitable material.

fourth, make a small sample, like as the real part.

fifth, do any tests on the sample.

sixth, do report of any step, this is your standard.

Also for find best price, do test for many material, it is cheaper price.

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