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Wanted: Compressed Air Cars

Posted November 17, 2009 8:00 AM

There are critics and cynics, but the French-made AirPod, a compressed air car, is built and on the road. More to the point: it has plenty to offer. It weighs just 220 kg (less than 500 lbs), tanks up in three minutes at two dollars per charge, and has no batteries to wear out or replace. What's wrong with that?

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Re: Wanted: Compressed Air Cars

11/17/2009 2:35 PM

Compressed air-powered cars and MDI's various designs for a compressed air-powered vehicle (of which the AirPod is the latest variant) have been covered in quite a great deal of depth here on CR4 by myself and others.

The current target market is now France, the main reasoning - France's "Nuclear power" which can be used to cleanly and affordably power the inefficient air compressors to produce the air to power the vehicles (compared to air and carbon polluting fuels like coal, petrol and diesel). The air powered car concept is still flawed and the promissed product over the years is still Vapourware, but it is a good marketing stratagy and reminds me of the days of the idea of "nuclear-powered" cars. This may be enough to actually get the air powered car on the road for actual large scale field trials.

Below is a good recent article that covers MDI and the compressed air-powered car (both past, present and future plans).

http://spectrum.ieee.org/energy/environment/deflating-the-air-car

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11/17/2009 10:59 PM

According to the article it's not yet on the road and the 45km/h speed & 200km range haven't been independently verified.

Come back when you've got something to sell.

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Re: Wanted: Compressed Air Cars

11/18/2009 12:48 AM

What's wrong with that? This is the short list:

- Terrible thermodynamics.

- They have been hyping this for decades now, but have never demonstrated more than 7 km range.

- Awful energy storage density: a 55 gallon 350 bar (yikes! 5145 psi) compressed air tank. All for the energy equivalent of a liter of gasoline.

- No infrastructure of compressor stations that can fill such tanks (that's 40 times the maximum pressure rating of a typical garage compressor).

- I can pedal my bike faster than it goes.

- Far worse environmental impact and wasted energy than for an electric vehicle or a small gasoline vehicle.

- SCUBA and SCBA tanks have limited life, and we assume these would too.

- The air engine suffers from the complexity and wear issues of an internal combustion engine. An electric motor is simpler, proven, quieter, and more efficient.

- If you wanted to have a scuba style compressor to fill up at home, you 'd pay many thousands of dollars for the compressor alone.

- Low resale value: who would want such a thing?

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11/18/2009 6:51 AM

A bit more on Scuba tanks.

1) Limited Life? I have a steel 72 cu.ft. tank with a mfg date of 1961 that is still in use. It opereates at a relatively low presssure (2200 psi) when compared with new aluminum and other alloy tanks. Proper care and a strict maintenance program are the cause here.

2) All high pressure vessels have regular inspection requirements. The law may vary from country to country, but even your BBQ tank needs to be inspected or replaced. In Canada, a SCUBA tank needs a visual inspection every year and a hydrostatic pressure test every five years to be certified for use.

3) No Hydro certificate, no air fill. Penalties are fairly stiff if caught filling a non-cert tank.

4) Expensive fill station is an understatement. Last time I checked the complete station was about $10,000 CDN and you still had to install the upgraded electrical service to run the two stage compressor. Other upgrades include a method of handling the heat produced by the compressor and compression in the tank. Then there is the blast sheilding required to protect the operation whil the tank is being filled, a just in case there is a problem scenario.

5) Now add in the regular inspections requried to keep the compressor station up to spec. You know who is going to pay for that don't you!!

6) We haven't even gotten to things like the loss of "power" or pressure caused by temperature changes or what happens if the tank's pressure rating is exceeded. Currently a pressure disc pops out and there is a total loss of pressure.

Compressed air cars are a great idea, but right now, not even close to practical. Now if we could only harness the wind of our political representatives, we would be getting some where.

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12/02/2009 5:24 PM

I completely agree with the view. Air compression is very inefficient. So car will overall use much higher energy to run 1 km compared to electric car. Not environmental friendly at all.

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Re: Wanted: Compressed Air Cars

11/18/2009 2:48 AM

Airpod,

If you want spare hot air to run it longer, carpool with a politician.

Jon

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