Lawmakers Eyeing National ID Card

Indeed. It'll just give China something else to knock off.

*tweaks Del's tail and runs away really quick*

CFR

CFR? Huh?

CATostrophic fail rate?

Council on Foriegn Relations

Yep, they are trying to bring it into Australia under the guise of a medical card that contains all your health records so you can move between states and your record goes with you. Its not compulsory, but if you dont comply you do not get any government medical insurance cover. (I know you Americans are going thru that now). As far as being fraud/terrorism/hacker proof, I didnt think there was anyone on earth that could still believe that!

Rok

As far as being fraud/terrorism/hacker proof, I didnt think there was anyone on earth that could still believe that!

Surprise surprise they're not telling the whole truth, who would believe them if they said more control is the objective anyway...

it's inevitable, and, believe it or not, the PTB will soon find the justifications to implement it throughout society.

here's the "card" in its most convenient form. isn't this ad already shown in your country?

We are in the race too. Here is the latest news on the subject.

I'm appalled!

They've just jammed a health insurance law down our throats, one that is already being called unconstitutional and under attack by 15 states for abridging individual rights and for taking power from the states that is theirs by law.

Now they want everyone to be in a national directory managed by Big Brother!

Next they'll be using that same list to keep track of who has a gun!

After all the lives shed on behalf of creating and protecting this republic we've lost the Country to the Socialists.

Pogo was right: "We has met the enemy and he is us!"

Laughing Jaguar isn't laughing!

Just so all of you know his track record, one of the proponents of this hysteria, Senator Chuck Schumer, used to be a Congressman.

While a Congressman, he trid to introduce legislation requiring that every bullet sold in the United States must have it's own serial number!

I laughed until I cried at the stupidity of such an idea and while it was never even considered by others in Congress, it does shed some light on the mental processes (or lack of any) of the now Senator Schumer.

Does anyone doubt for one second, that this jerk won't attempt to use a national ID card as a back door to gun registration?

Gentlemen, keep your powder dry!

L.J.

Leaving aside for the moment any pro/con arguments regarding the card (or bullet serial #'s...)

I think you're reaching a bit here. The card & tracking gun ownership don't seem inherently connected, other than the tenuous links of Schumer and the NHS. After all, the government could easily enough today require any of a multitude of existing common forms of ID link the sale of a gun to an individual - but in most cases they don't.

Not saying that they couldn't or wouldn't eventually use such a card for that purpose. Only that you're perhaps making a big jump from "A" to somewhere in the vacinity of "P".

When the Social Security Act was first passed under FDR's term of office, the legislation made it very clear that the assigned number was NOT to be used a means of identification.

Now, damn near everything is catalogued using SS #'s from your bank account to the FBI's finger print archives. Virtually every State interrogates those records before releasing gun permits or licenses to purchase.

The FBI is supposed to destroy submitted finger print sheets when there is no evidence of a crime, a prior conviction or an existing arrest warrant. Some years ago, a major stink was made when it was found that the sheets of innocent people were NOT destroyed but kept on file.

The FAA uses State records to search for traffic violations, accidents and convictions for DUI as part of the requisite periodic physical exams mandated for renewing ones Airman's Medical Certificate.

Today I renewed my pilots license and had to provide a source for an identifying photo to be laminated onto a new license containing a scannable hologram. I gave them my state. The application went through.

Easy-Pass transponder charges made at toll roads and river crossings give a detailed view of a person's movements whether they be a law abiding citizen or a criminal. Ditto credit card purchases.

We haven't even begun to discuss the consequences of a medical database as suggested by our esteemed President, allegedly for the purpose of reducing costs.

And, as we use the Internet, cookies are revealing to someone, somewhere virtually everything about our buying habits, where we blog, and what we write.

The octopus of personal data retrieval will be empowered dramatically by this proposal if enacted. Whether it takes 6 days, 6 months or 6 years to confiscate our civil liberties is hardly relevant.

L.J.

"And so it goes!"

No they ditched the serial number idea and adopted having a chip in each new bullet manufactured instead.

Are there any conspiracy theorists you'll need make apology too

It's not a secret, seemingly crazy talk in the 1980's but

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8LPNRI_6T8

"Are there any conspiracy theorists you'll need make apology too?"

Yes. . . . Hillary Clinton and her cigar smoking huisband!\

L.J.

There is only one universal card and that is a greenback with a picture of a president printed on it. With that card, you can go anywhere. "Don't leave home without it".©