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Medical Malware?

Posted June 09, 2010 7:49 AM

A University of Reading, UK, scientist found a unique way to demonstrate potential risks of some implantable devices. He had a chip infected with a computer virus inserted into his hand. Does his action lend weight to safety issues that should be addressed now? Should effort be devoted to rendering pacemakers and other implantables less vulnerable to potential electronic infections?

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Re: Medical Malware?

06/09/2010 9:47 AM

Again ?

How ignorant you think we are? You're talking about the "scientist" that took a memory device and shoved it up his ear, right?

No, no efforts should be devoted to prevent something from what is imposible to happen. Such implants would need to have the correct inteface, processor and storage area, plus the firmware to make the code actually do something + being in the vicinity of the proper transceiver!!!

Please stop this threads, I don't know what's your point. Are you trying to sell something?

Jesus Christ ! It's like you threatened me with sending code to my Mr.Cofee and make it attack me.

Have you ever noticed that low-lives look alike? I guess genes travel in packages, I bet that this "scientist" is somehow related to the one that says that you can travel faster than the wind that pushes you.

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06/09/2010 6:32 PM

For some reason I couldn't see your picture, I bet is nice but try a diferent format.

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Re: Medical Malware?

06/10/2010 2:50 PM

Re: Sailing faster than the wind. Done all the time. Here's the math.

http://www.animations.physics.unsw.edu.au/jw/sailing.html

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06/10/2010 6:12 PM

That's cheating! make no use of the vector sums and sail straight downwind.

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06/10/2010 6:23 PM

In that case you are right. You will sail slower than the wind due to hull and sail drag. I try not to sail (sailboard) downwind if I can; not a lot of fun.

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06/09/2010 7:47 PM

Hey, if nobody complains about the "eat according to your blood type" or " Is raw food heathy" posts, why should we do it about this one....

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06/09/2010 10:23 PM

Wot, no chit chat on the medical blog?

Seems like a legit topic to me.

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06/10/2010 7:44 AM

Well I will not continue immolating myself every time someone starts a thread related to health / medicine leading to nowhere :-). I learned my lesson, I will introduce urine-therapy to the CR4 community in the short time. As soon as I have gathered some more info from the Readers Digest and from "Buy it now" advertising before doing so. Best regards!

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06/10/2010 10:47 AM

I initially thought this British guy was a crackpot, but I guess he's just overly-dramatic in making his point.

If you don't make the developers put security in the software, it won't happen. We see it with live Predator video in the wars, we see it with hacking into automobile control systems. In both cases, they didn't write any security into the interfaces because they weren't paid to. Medical implants WILL be hacked unless "we" secure them.

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06/12/2010 2:37 AM

As a former Cardiac Pacemaker designer using the telemetry channel would be the easiest way to mess up a implantable device since many devices need to be programmed. One method is to send inappropriate RF commands. I will not say what kind of commands because I do not want someone trying it. There is only the pacing leads and it would be hard for malware to cause a problem there unless you knew about Cardiac Pacemakers and Cardiology. There is a way to cause total malfunction by designing a hardware/software virus into the actual chips. This is Evil Genius stuff.

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06/14/2010 9:22 AM

As a former designer, you're one of the people who could "easily" kill someone this way. It would be no different than shooting the victim, and such activity would therefore be aggressively investigated and hard to conceal.

Any embedded systems engineer could do it as well, with just a little research. In my limited biomedical experience, access to the technical information for such devices is not controlled. It's just a matter of knowing where to look, right?

What little I know of hacker ethics indicates there's a big difference between disrupting big expensive operations or creating chaos for some victims, and actually killing them or making them very sick.

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