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Peaceful UAVs

Posted October 03, 2010 8:26 AM

Most of the world has learned about unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) from news reports about Iraq and Afghanistan. They're called Predators, Reapers, Hunters, and Global Hawks. Yet the technology holds much potential for non-military applications. Crop monitoring, pipeline inspection, and disaster area reconnaissance come to mind. What other peaceful purposes can UAVs serve?

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10/03/2010 11:36 PM

What about putting seating for two or more and some nice amenities in them? Like a limo/hotel, but with no pilot or driver!

What a way to travel that would be - UAV what?

Anyway, not to derail the post but this makes me think of this amazing little motor I saw at SEMA a few years ago.

The layout of the motor and the way the pistons operated was pretty imaginative. I don't remember all the details and don't see much online about the KISS KV-331.

Power to weight and size seems pretty nice.

It is recommended for use in UAVs, but I was wondering where else the motor could be put to good use. I just want one......oh well!

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10/04/2010 3:22 AM

As a retired rural police volunteer, I claimed for years that using UAV equiped with IR cameras would enable detection of theft of agricultural equipment including cattle even at night, and of course to monitor traffic at day and night. And when a driver passes a continous line on the road, it is much more difficault to watch than to discover over speed! But a UAV will detect and report immediately! So,when law breakers will know that the big brother's eye is watching them, they will think again!

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10/04/2010 12:02 PM

UAV's that are used to police people are not 'peaceful' in my book, but are 'forceful'.

law is evolved from the fundamental notion that it is wrong 'to remove choice from others'. (by stealing, raping, murdering, etc.)

I'm not fond of the use of UAV's for traffic monitoring combined with police authority. It is retarded inverted thinking. If a community required actual and real speed limits, then it would implement radio controlled interdiction zones, where the radio signal directly limits the vehicle speeds.

Otherwise, the use of monitoring technologies by police is a cash cow, and therefore antithetical to society and sanity. Can you imagine going into a robotic warehouse, and the robotic governing system allows robots to dash madly about in people zones, 'if the road is clear'? No, robot vehicles will be absolutely controlled within interdiction zones, by both internal controllers and system oversight controls. Likely they would be controlled at all times with regards to speed.

I have driven on a go-kart track where the karts were speed limited to 29 km/h, and all cars were basically equal in speed. It wasn't much fun, but there were zero collisions with other vehicles, or spinouts etc. I've also driven go-karts that had top speeds in excess of 80 km/h, and there were lots of spinouts and crashes with other vehicles. I think the difference is very substantial, and informs the paradigms implemented to prevent accidents in zones where speed limit control is warranted.

(No disrespect intended to you or your years of personal service.)

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10/05/2010 12:18 AM

Probably because I my poor english, i failed to explain my idea:I do not think that the too fast car's speed is the big problem, much more dangerous is the driver who passes a continous line that separates the road and prohibits crossing the marked line because of poor visibility. Such drivers are much more dangerous than the too fast drivers! The only one way to detect it, is the big brother's eye watching from the sky, no country can put a police cop on every road's line!

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10/05/2010 9:51 PM

Hi yez (hope you don't mind spelling your name in Australian)

Were we are most of the roads are double lined. You are right is is very dangerous. If not the direct collision then the panicked avoiding reactions of both parties. Its always down the hill for one party here.

You see, we drive on the left (the right;-)) side of the road and many tourists come from countries were it's just the other way around.There are many hills and tight stretches of road and every time (and I mean every time) I travel in the car I think of possible evasive action. What would I do if? I hope it trains my instinct. Very dangerous indeed.

Now to using UAV's to control and or punish such behavior with what ever force. You would have more people in jail or paying fines than you would have taxpayers. All of the jails in the world could not fit the culprits. It must be even worse in the metropolitan areas, I remember it well.

Just this little Island would possibly be turned into a huge money spinner. I see it happen every day and I don't drive much at all. If such a system would be in place and detect and punish the culprits, who is going to police it. Maybe just a sophisticated computer program will do the job?

You know, I can think of evasive action regarding a person threatening my life with his stupidity (incl. drink driving) but I would have no chance of the same reaction time if such a system would be in place and for reasons I can't even imagine, or can I? The damage done while invading my privacy would be just as bad.

Since thousands of years weapons creation, development have filtered down to the private house hold. The development of materials like Teflon, practically anything one could think of. And the list goes on. The sooner an commercial application can be found for UAV's the better It would have to be more profitable (The military Industrial Complex) than using them in war though.

So far the tax payer is financing this R&D but hopefully the niche markets will open up and take over.

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10/06/2010 4:08 AM

Shalom [The Israeli greeting] KY About drivers who cross the marked line:If they will know that soon after they commited this act they will pay lot of money, they will pay much more attention! Using the same chip for stolen car location will enable the authorities to indentify the car's number and the owner. For tourists [from countries that use to drive on the right]who come to visit Australia I would recommend that they will be permitted to drive only after practicing and testing by a driving simulator! Against theft- A friend a mine a, widow woman farmer that lives at the end of her village, suffered 3 times robbery by robbers that used the fact that she wasn't at home , and emptied her house! they had to walk with their stolen goods about 150 m', because it was muddy, and they had to walk to the truck that waited for them.If they would think that the "big brother's eye" is watching them, they would think once more. The next day after my friend discoverd this she called the police, they were even worse-because they only spread coal powder to detect the traces, but except of adding much dirt they found nothing! Now how much is it settled with our wish for privacy?!

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10/04/2010 5:25 AM

A man was lost in Joshua Tree National Monument for six days last week - wandering around.

I woke up this morning thinking about a UAV system designed for search and rescue and realized that all hikers should have RFID tags in their packs. You know the ones they stick in the books at Barnes and Noble between the pages? Those little devices resonate (retransmit) a weak signal when excited by a strong one. So a UAV could send out bursts and with sensitive enough instrumentation could pick up the homing signal.

I also envisage a drop pod secondary system that can be used to navigate at low level. These are essentially micro dirigibles (helium balloons) that inflate after ejection and are also remotely navigable for detailed searching in thicker areas. Of course wind plays a part in that type of searching. In some cases a micro helicopter type may prove more beneficial, using the UAV as a repeater for the signals involved.

There is no doubt that if such things were low enough cost that even small towns like Joshua Tree could afford them to save lives.

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10/04/2010 12:05 PM

excellent. ga

Conversely, if they were affordable enough, the backpacker could carry their own, and send them out like homing pigeons to deliver the message and the gps coordinates of where they are...

which leads directly to the subject of each backpacker having a communication unit capable of broadcasting emergency information. (when rescue is required)

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10/05/2010 3:04 AM

It's called an EPRB - Emergency Personal Radio Beacon. This system uses satellites, monitoring a radio frequency [unsure which exactly, believe it's in the 400ghz range]. As yet not a requirement for hikers here in Australia-who frequently use their mobile/cell phones when in 'trouble' (and in range) but a mandatory item for 'boaties'.

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10/06/2010 1:47 AM

thanks for the rescue!

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10/04/2010 5:46 AM

Hi,

What other peaceful purposes can UAVs serve?

  1. Transport
  2. Delivery of small packets
  3. Assisting security Guards

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10/04/2010 12:06 PM

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10/04/2010 11:02 AM

How about monitoring wildlife poulations for more effective conservation and harvesting. The fishing industry comes to mind.

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10/04/2010 12:07 PM

monitoring atmospheric conditions worldwide.

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10/04/2010 9:02 PM

I agree chris - like the volcano in Iceland last spring, when the normal flight routes across the north Atlantic/Europe were circumvented for a while.

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10/04/2010 9:55 PM

I think that they can help create a better profile of atmospheric conditions... to increase the resolution of the image, so to speak.

Say you want to seed the jetstream with sensors.. which would traditionally be monitored by a balloon system. I think that when you couple a high altitude balloon as a mothership, with a thousand tiny robotic uav's, that you can gather a much more comprehensive gradient of data surrounding the jetstream

Balloon/micro-uav systems can also be conducted up to 150,000 feet before releasing the cloud of micro-uavs.

those little toy helicopters are down to 50$ retail now... if they were fitted with sensors and digital radio transponders, they can teach us a lot about hurricanes and tornados.

Also, they could be used to profile the Van-Allen belt (microrockets) more thoroughly, and profile the solar winds more accurately. and then, post mission, to reconvene at a common point, for safety and convenient disposal.

no reason to exclude the oceans.. sea floor mapping projects, search grids for sunken objects, underwater cave exploration, etc.

all micro uav tech.

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11/02/2010 9:18 AM

Too Bad here in the ole' USA the FAA and Military has regulated the use of UAV's right out of the use of anyone, and experimenting for new and better uses is near impossible.

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