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Are You Where You Want to Be?

Posted October 12, 2010 8:01 AM

In the Pulitzer Prize winning play You Can't Take It With You, Sycamore family patriarch Martin Vanderhof asks, "How many of us when we are young would be willing to settle for what we finally achieve? It's only a fortunate few who get close." How close have you come? How different is your career from what you expected while you were still in or just out of college? How do your goals compare to what they were then? Which of your original goals did you meet? Which goals faded with time? What would you do differently if you had the chance to start again?

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10/12/2010 11:23 PM

1. Are you where you want to be? Yes

2. How close have you come to what you originally sought? The other side of the universe. The problem is, the goals I set when I was young were expressed in the wrong terms. It is hard to define clearly what you want out of life, when you have no real experience...

3. How close am I to what I expected just out of college? Unfortunately, my expectations just out of college were too easy to achieve. I passed those many years ago...

4. How do my current goals relate to what they were back in college? Totally unrelated. I had to move on to keep challenge alive...

5. Which goals have I achieved? Low maintenance lifestyle

5. Which goals faded with time? Getting rich

6. What would I do differently? Nothing of any real significance. (There ARE a few personal relationships that I could have handled better, but that has nothing to do with career goals).

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10/13/2010 5:12 AM

Good reply,
Your #2 nails the problem nicely.
If I knew then what I know now... <sigh>
The most important things are often beyond our control (the health of those we love. Oh yes and cats, they are deffinitely beyond control)
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(And I'm broadly speaking where I want to be... not a grandad tho' ... But more specifically I'm at this damn desk when I'd rather be in my garage working on a bow)

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10/13/2010 10:45 AM

How close have you come? I think I have finally achieved my general goals at 50, however I spent a great deal of time on the wrong track.

How different is your career from what you expected while you were still in or just out of college? Substantially different, and as a result went back to college...twice.

How do your goals compare to what they were then? My goals are now more specific and tangible. Defining the goal requires some specific thought processes that ultimately help you achieve the goal. The definition might be the first step.

Which of your original goals did you meet? Professional recognition, formal education, nice motorcycle. 80)

Which goals faded with time? I decided at some point that I did not want to be rich, which is probably everyone's goal when they are young. Lucky for me, I was relatively poor in my formative years and never aquired a taste for expensive lifestyles. So I dont miss anything by not being wealthy. It occured to me at some point that it was much like getting a pilots license. It sounds like fun to fly and airplan, but whne you relaize all the time, energy, money etc to get a license, most decide its not worth the end result. Becoming rich means studying taxes, and legal stuff, and managing portfolios, and diversifying rusk, etc... I am sure I wouldnt be happy trying to stay on top of al that "junk".

What would you do differently if you had the chance to start again? I would have asked old people for advice. I would have studied in college a degree field that resulted in a more structured employment possiblity. I would have traveled more as a single person and waited to have children until I was at least 27.

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10/13/2010 11:03 AM

I am still young (33) and only have 11 years experience.

I have reached recognition, because of what I do. I like what I do (engineer, think, design, etc), but not necessarily my job or the company.

Cars eluded me, since I got into mechanical engineering, because of this. I wanted to design them, but now I work in plastics.

Being rich has not eluded me yet. This, because I still have time to reach this goal. I don´t want to be rich, because I want a fancy lifestyle. I want to be rich so I can dedicate myself to doing stuff that I love, not out of necessity to earning a living, but out of necessity to make a difference, a change if you will, and to fulfill a need to create something.

I have to agree that I should have traveled as a single alot more and waited to have children until I was 27 also.

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10/13/2010 1:36 PM

I think that many times we as adults don't approach life, setting goals and living life successfully from a proper standpoint. There is an approach to living life successfully that is foreign to most of us, to our detriment and to the detriment of our kids, those young people, and maybe not so young people who we have the privilege of influencing. That is the idea of DEFINE, LEARN, DO. We should DEFINE what we want in life, LEARN from someone who is in the position we would like to be in at some point down the road and then DO what they do with their help or at least learn from their sources of knowledge.

If we would approach life in that manner we would end up doing the things that fire us up, would excite us and we would end up being much more motivated, productive and fulfilled, etc. because we would be, like Jim Collins says in Good to Great, "on the right bus and in the right seat."

As it is, the vast majority of people wind up doing what they are obligated to do and not what their priorities are. Henry David Thoreau said that "most men (women) lead lives of quiet desperation." That is because they feel trapped and not able to do what they love to do because they got started wrong in the process, by DOING (whatever was available to meet the immediate need financially), LEARNING (getting better at whatever the job was), and that then DEFINED what their lifestyle was going to be.

The beginning mindset needs to be changed in order to have the right end results. The fact that "It's only a fortunate few who get close" is telling us that something isn't right with the information (premise) we are operating on. Maybe we need to change how we approach life, goals and success (mostly how we define it). If we want particular results with a engineering project, you have to know what the outcome to be desired is before we can make the right moves to bring it to fruition. Why do we not approach our futures, something more important than an engineering or construction project, with more forethought than we do?

If we want to be fulfilled, successful, we have to be involved with the things that can get us to what we have DEFINED.

Some of those goals that we established early in life may need to be adjusted but the principles that help us accomplish them never change. When those goals "fade", maybe it's just that we give up on them instead of finding out what it would take to get them. I think that's where the "lives of quiet desperation" comes in. We would need to change how we think, take some risk and maybe start associating with a different group of people who "hate losing enough to change".

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10/13/2010 2:02 PM

This is a helluva good question. How can you ask a boy's mind to design an adult's life and expect precision results?

My boyself couldn't hope to keep up with the man he grew into. He was talented but required more seasoning. He didn't understand happiness yet.

The only thing I would do differently, if I could change any part of my past, is I would have gotten that damned cat, who thought he was mine, declawed when he was a kitten.

He hung around for 20 years & 3 wives and would have made a fine pet except for his bad habit of digging in those claws every time he sat on a human lap. I've never been a cat person so, I just kept him away from me.

Other than that, I've enjoyed the ride way too much these past 6+ decades to imagine which experience I would wish to live without.

I've hit it rich more than once, been wiped out a few times too. Known glory and shame, ecstasy and heartbreak, learned a lot and don't know enough.

I never expected to live this long but am happy for every day I get to rise out of bed. There isn't a day of my life I would have wanted to miss.

My passion now is for collecting birthdays. I figure I will never get enough birthdays - I was born to eat birthday cake.

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10/13/2010 2:42 PM

Welcome to CR4 GOO!

Just a thought; I don't know who said this but I like it: "Don't just count your years, make your years count."

"I've hit it rich more than once, been wiped out a few times too. Known glory and shame, ecstasy and heartbreak, learned a lot and don't know enough."

I like this statement you made, it lets us know that you realize and accept the fact that adversity will come, you adjust, keep moving forward with a desire to grow personally. Like Ray Kroc said, "are you green and growing or ripe and rotting?"

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