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2011 Challenger Gets New 305-HP Pentastar V6

Posted October 29, 2010 9:00 AM by CarDomain

Up to now, the Challenger has been lagging a bit in the pony cars wars. For the V8 cars it's been hurting in the price category – realistically, Challengers end up being a lot more expensive than "equivalent" Mustangs or Camaros, and dealers don't seem to budge on price. And compared to the other V6 cars, it's been straight up underpowered, especially when you factor in the Mopar's added heft.

Well, Chrysler has since announced that the 2011 Challenger will get the new 305-hp Pentastar V6. Pricing is in line with the 305-hp V6 Mustang and 312-hp V6 Camaro at $23,245. Yeah, it's still heavier (366 pounds heavier than the Mustang and 78 pounds heavier than the Camaro), but I think it's more practical (bigger back seat and trunk, better outward visibility than the Chevy) and better looking than the other two. No gas mileage figures yet, but I imagine it will be close to the Camaro's numbers (17/28). Sounds like great daily driver material to me.

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10/29/2010 11:13 PM

I wonder when we'll ever grow up past these "pony" cars? Two wars, a recession/depression, global warming, extinctions, oil spills, and still the adolescents continue their search for eternal youth through acceleration adrenaline. Can I interest you in a Yaris?

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10/30/2010 6:07 AM

Short answer, No.

Longer answer, the Yaris is not remotely aspirational for anybody with imagination and a pulse. It's just a bean counter car, no more.

The Challenger on the other hand (and "Pony Cars" in general) offer "The Dream of Freedom", its always nice to dream..

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10/30/2010 6:39 PM

This is the difference between the journey and the destination.

Obviously, the destination is the only thing that matters to you. How you get there is just an annoyance.

Incidentally, when you get to your first history class you will be interested to know that there have been more than two wars in humanity's past. If you read deep enough you will probably find that for all of the people that started those wars the destination was the only thing of importance to them, too.

Lighten up and enjoy the ride.

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11/26/2010 8:16 PM

Can I interest you in a Renault Fuego?

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10/30/2010 11:58 AM

we the people of the united states need to buy american cars, and if it takes having a few ponies under the hood to get us in the spirit so be it, job market in this country has continued to go into the red, I recently was at a warehouse for fab equipment surplus and it was dismal, no one in silicon valley makes anything anymore, we lost the manufacturing in the clinton era, ross perot told us it was a serious mistake to do nafta and cafta, now we see what he was talking about, give me american products made by american workers or i will do without, wake up people your children are hungry and your cuboard is bare...

rant rant rant, i drive a american made car and fix it myself but have trouble finding parts for it that are made in america, Sf Bay bridge is being rebuilt and guess where the parts are coming from,, China, we cannot even make our own infrastructure parts now, china sent us three special large cranes for oakland harbour to unload a special container ship that is to big to go through the panama canal "it was never meant to," it just comes to oakland ca loaded with filled containers and returns with empty containers for more cheap junk that is either dangerous or poisonous to our children, we cannot compete with slave labor communist country products, we can however refuse to buy them, boycott china-mart not usa made products, wake the hell up america,,

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10/31/2010 4:17 PM

If you support a product because of its origin then the manufacture no longer competes for your money by selling you value.

In other words, if the only merit that drives a buyer is country of origin, then quality of that product will suffer.

If I sell a widget and buyers want my widget because it is USA manufactured, then it doesn't matter if my foreign competition has a better product, I still win the sale. So, I will invest less in the quality of my product so as to maximize my profit. I will keep downsizing the quality (and my cost) until customers start walking away, then I will raise it a little.

On the other hand, if I have to compete on a level playing field with other manufactures for your dollars, I will offer you a better product in some way (i.e., cost or features or durability) to keep my market share as high as I can. My competition will try to do the same and all manufactures will always be on a continuous improvement cycle trying to out perform the others. The customer wins by getting a better product.

In the real world countries try to play unfair. One method is to devalue their own currency so that foreign buyers get more for their money than they do at home. China is doing this in a big way. China, and other countries will also short change environmental standards and safety to give you a better price, but the buyer can discriminate based on quality or safety. In other words, the buyer pays for as much quality or safety as they want.

However, when a country offers a high quality and high safety item at an artificially low price, the buyer tends to buy foreign because it is in their best interest. Artificially devaluing your currency is an unfair trade practice, but that is the way it works.

When things too out of balance trade wars break out. This can lead to a real war and one of our World Wars started just that way.

The bottom line is, the actual problem is a political one and buying a product only because of its origin of manufacture hurts the buyers in the end with an inferior product at a higher cost. A better tact is to respond at the voting booth and make sure you select candidates that support your position.

Selecting a good candidate takes some research time and effort, so you will need to sacrifice some TV couch time, but on the flip side you won't have to listen to those abnormally loud commercials.

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11/01/2010 12:09 PM

We the People of the United States stopped making "American" cars 30 yrs. ago.

So, unless you are buying a used car built prior to that time it is not possible to get an "american made" one...only, one "built in america".

Many "foriegn" cars are built right here in the good ol' USA and are mostly (meaning greater than 50% by US law) of US made parts.

Even my 1974 Ford Econoline had "imported" parts in it.

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10/30/2010 4:21 PM

...I'd be interested in the PLYMOUTH-version.

...oh, Daimler "killed" that marque-nameplate didn't they?!?!?

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10/31/2010 2:10 PM

They took our Jaaaabs!

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11/01/2010 11:08 AM

I have to admit.... I was a '69 Camaro owner back in the day and Camaro-Chevy enthusiast, but Mopar got the styling on the Challenger dead-on; better than either Camaro or Mustang. I'm a V8 guy, but if I were looking for a V6 daily driver, I'd have to pick the Challenger. Rayzer

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11/02/2010 11:20 AM

As much as I want one, wife would make me get rid of one of my other "toys" first. I'll have to stay with my 67 R/T, 440 powered, and my 69 Roadrunner, soon to have a 600HP 500", gas mileage? I expect about 6-8 city/maybe 11-12 highway. Not a daily driver but lots of fun for the weekends.

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