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Is There Life After Batteries?

Posted January 23, 2011 7:00 AM

With batteries continuing to be the primary power supply for portable consumer electronics and even electric vehicles, do you think we are saddled with incremental improvements to this venerable technology for the foreseeable future, or do you hold out hope for a revolutionary energy storage device? What's your future vision for powering your own car, home, and personal devices?

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Re: Is There Life After Batteries?

01/23/2011 11:28 PM

YES, I can happily reply. There was life on this old earth for some 3,5 billion years before the invention of the battery. Life does not require a patented battery to function.

On the other hand, if you dream of devices surpassing chemical batteries, yes, they are there theoretically, and for sure with high energy densities. You just have to be an exceptionally bright chemical or physics student to get near the subject matter. Then there is the Zero Point Energy. Ask a very good physicist about this nearly mythical beast!

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01/24/2011 1:46 AM

Spring. Hand wound for portable devices and machine wound for car . Machine located in Gas stations.

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01/24/2011 5:43 AM

I think chemical electricity accumulators will not solve the problem of electrical energy supply for an automobile vehicle. I mean accumulators which are able to be charged with a DC source, to feed the electrical traction motor of a vehicle.

The physical-chemical processes the current electrical accumulators are based on, is a technological dead end.

The way I see to transport energy in a automotive vehicle is to use electricity, produced in static plants by clean processes, to manufacture high energy liquid fuels, for instance ethylic alcohol, methanol, or others.

CO2 gas produced by the Internal Combustion engines and by industrial plants can be converted into liquid fuels. In my opinion this is the best way to sequester the CO2.

In the current status of the technology, the best way is to use nuclear and renewable energy electrical plants to produce electricity with zero air contaminating emissions. This electricity can be used to manufacture high energy density fuel for IC engines, and at the same time to sequester the CO2.

The nuclear waste of nuclear plants can be fully controlled, and in terms of weight, to produce 1 KWh of "nuclear" electricity is "1" compared with "1000" for the combustion conventional plants. Until new clean nuclear plants are available, what I think will take 30 years.

With the price of the fossil fuels going up, a cost balance point will be reached very soon. And the fossil fuel reserves are not infinite.

I am working in this direction, to set up a laboratory prototype.

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01/24/2011 8:58 AM

Battery is one biggest source of earth poisoning by lithium, lead, cadmium, arsenic and other poisons but we live with this since world has not found alternate.

This is same we use to live with leaded gas till we invented lead free gas.

There are power source coming down which may replace battery from mobile device and that is solid oxide fuel cell based on silicon and MEMS technology. This is one of the biggest thing coming down after battery, computer and mobile device and we are getting unwired in communication

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01/24/2011 9:16 AM

What happened to the fuel cell? Toshiba apparently had something they wanted to bring to market in 2007. Other articles indicate the release was pushed to 2009. All the hype has disappeared.

Toshiba's 2006 Fuel Cell Prototype

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01/24/2011 11:16 AM

Go to wwwlilliputiansystemsinc.com and you will system which is based on silicon and may one day fit inside a mobile device and then can used as battery. Currently it is used as battery chargers

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02/05/2011 2:33 PM

There any fire to go with that fund raising smoke?

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01/24/2011 11:41 AM

1...The lead foam battery has twice the life of Li, full recharge in minutes, no massive build up of heat and weight is same....2... Alkaline fuel cell powered by ammonia using hydrogen cracked (onboard) from ammonia (NH3). Ammonia is plentiful and an excellent way to transport hydrogen. This is happening now but the press will not cover it.

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05/03/2011 11:08 PM

If Capstone can get it's Natural Gas Generator small enough then we can power the vechiles, homes and life easy

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