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The Rise of the Cheap LED Lightbulb

Posted June 11, 2012 1:36 PM by cheme_wordsmithy

Lighting in a typical household may only account for about 10% of the consumer's energy bill. But even this fraction, along with the cost of bulb replacement, can add up over time. Light emitting diode (LED) technology aims to make improvements to fixture life and lighting efficiency. However, like many "new" technologies nowadays, the initial cost of LED lightbulbs is the biggest obstacle.

Retail prices for LEDs pale in comparison to their incandescent and compact fluorescent competition. You can buy a 60W CFL for $4 and a 60W incandescent for a dollar, but an LED equivalent would cost between $15 and $25. The supposed increased lifespan of LEDs (and the associated "cool" factor that comes with new tech) isn't nearly enough to justify this price gap for most people.

<--(This 8W, 60W equivalent LED lightbulb from TigerDirect costs $24.99. Yikes! Image Credit: TigerDirect.com)

A few months ago I reported on the current state and future prospects of LED technology. Part of this report focused on Soraa, a solid-state-lighting startup company utilizing a new approach to producing LEDs. Their aim is to construct LEDs using gallium-nitride as the substrate, resulting in fewer defects. These bulbs produce 10 times the light of other types of LEDs, ideally allowing for much higher lighting efficiencies (i.e. more light per unit power).

Gallium-nitride is also much more expensive, however. Other companies are vying for more traditional approaches that grow minimal amounts of gallium-nitride on sapphire or silicon based substrates. Most believe that LED manufacturers will continue to look on these designs much more favorably.

Osram Opto Semiconductors, one of the world's largest LED manufacturers, says it has perfected a technique that may reduce production costs. The process optimizes the use of silicon as the substrate on which to grow gallium-nitride. Silicon is currently about a third the cost of sapphire, bolstered by record price drops over the past couple years.

(A 15-centimeter silicon wafer for gallium-nitride-on-silicon LEDs. Image Credit: Osram)

The trick in the process is overcoming the difficulties of material expansion. Because LEDs are made at high temperatures, the layers of material need to be cooled afterward. During cooling, the two materials expand at different rates, causing the gallium-nitride layer to crack due to tension from the silicon underneath. The cracking results in impurities and defects which render the product inefficient or unusable. The fix involves growing additional thin films of different materials in order to balance out the tension.

Osram's new LEDs are said to produce 127 lumens per watt of power, with a power efficiency of 58 percent. The company hasn't released any estimates on the cost of its new LEDs, but others using this silicon-based approach say price reductions could be 75% or more. One company, Bridgelux, predicts that for 75-watt equivalent LED lightbulbs, the numbers could drop from $40 to under $5.

If the past is any indicator, I am skeptical at best of these grand predictions. But if they do come to pass, I would expect to see a lot more people giving LED lightbulbs a try. Certainly there are other practical difficulties with LED technology, not the least of which is the amount of waste heat generated by these devices. But solutions to these concerns will likely be addressed more fully as these products begin to make their way into the consumer market.

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Cheaper LED Lightbulbs Are on the Way - Technology Review

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Re: The Rise of the Cheap LED Lightbulb

06/11/2012 1:49 PM

I suspect there won't be any drop in price until governments and power companies stop providing incentive payments for replacement of less efficient lighting...

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Re: The Rise of the Cheap LED Lightbulb

06/11/2012 9:18 PM

Aside from some low-wattage outdoor walkway lights that are LEDs, I hadn't tried any household type LED lamps until just this past week. I bought two 40 watt equivalent, 429 lumen light bulbs that use 9 watts (each). So the lamp efficacy is just under 50 lumens per watt. The color temperature is stated as 3000 Kelvin, but I installed one of the LED lamps into a 4-bulb ceiling fan light set and it appears noticeably 'whiter' and brighter than the regular 40 W incandescent lamp (475 lumens) in the same fixture. It also appears whiter than the other lamps in the fixture which are both CFLs. The claimed useable life of this LED bulb is 50,000 hours, 33X the life of the incandescent bulb. The manufacturer is Ecosmart.

I paid $10 each for the two LED light bulbs.

Another thing immediately noticeable about it is that it turns on instantly like the incandescent lamp. The two CFLs start off very dim and take about a minute to reach full brightness.

I should mention that although the LED lamp is brighter and whiter than the other 3 lamps, it is not annoying different. Unless I'm looking directly at the lamp, it's not obvious that it's different.

One other difference is that I don't find myself hating the LED lamp immediately, which was my reaction to the CFLs. I've got CFLs in the master bathroom. They emit a very annoying hum and also take nearly a minute to get to full brightness. At some point I'm going to remove them and put them somewhere else in the house where they won't bother me. Maybe I'll put them in the guest bedroom... heh, heh.

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Re: The Rise of the Cheap LED Lightbulb

06/11/2012 11:43 PM

I am having a love-hate-love affair with the LED as a primary lighting source. Not coming from an engineering background, I will not profess; but share practical experience, and read as others help sort out the wildly varying results.

Totally dissatisfied with experiencing a wide domestic application of CFLs, from surprisingly short life, slow warm-up and electronics interference; I was fast to try out L.E.D. for applications beyond where they already had shined. From the first head-band light I bought 6-7 years ago, to a 99 led stick light used to replace a trouble-light; the durability and brightness has been very satisfactory. Elimination of dangerous heat and near elimination of this lighting as an ignition source was a bonus.

So, when replacements for standard lighting got beyond the early models that look like the love-child of a hand grenade and an armadillo; I was eager to see if this was the answer to the millions of mercury lamps already mandated.

The Lamps that have had in-place at LEAST six months, some for 5 years year:

1. Two head IR triggered backyard lights. With this all-in-one fixture, I can see my dog at the far fenceline, something I could not do with 2 60W replacement CFLs in the old fixture. I NEVER expected this much light. It is a weird light, but bright. Even in normal daylight, I can tell when they are on, without looking at the fixture.

2. Replacement PAR lamps in recessed cans. I have these in a laundry area, where color rendering is not critical, just illumination. Instant light... kind of a cross of stark white and grey. horrible color but they do the job.

3. I took the ones out of the two kitchen fixtures... could not deal with the color. I am using up the remaining CFLs there, until I find something suitable

4. Table Lamp replacements 40-60W equ. Two in ceiling fixture with glass diffuser in the room I am posting from now... awful color, but I am getting used to the lesser illumination and heavy shadowing

5. Front Porch canopy light. Same 40W lamp as #4.... EXTREMELY BRIGHT, even highly visible in daylight through the fixture frosted lens..... how could THAT be, when the same lamps in the office seem dimmer and greyer ?

6. Flashlights? ALL my MAGLIGHTS are in a box in basement.... anyone want a deal? Or maybe melt them down for the high grade aluminum. 3 Packs of these flashlights sold everywhere for 5-20 bucks... including name-brand batteries. Batteries retain shelf life, as if they were not in a device ( not much leakage in-circuit compared to in package ) Too bad MagLite ignored the L.E.D. till they were left at the gate. They should have LED the charge.

7. Already have had one LED PAR lamp turn into a disco strobe... the driver must have fried... less than a year old. The LEDs themselves are fine, they just turn on and off real fast by themselves.

8. Box letter sign on business. Letter faces in RED, with LED lighting inside. They appear very dim, until it is FULLY dark outside. Maker of sign may have been stingy with the number of LEDS, or the quality. They would not supply technical info on the build. I am considering loading each letter with a 100 LED X-Mas light string to light that pup up.

IF anyone can point to testing and results, along with the science of how our eyes behave to different lighting, and where the technology is emerging with solutions to perfect the art, please do. I hope to find those answers here.

So that is my experiment-in-progress, and my L.E.D. Love-Hate-Love relationship

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06/12/2012 8:18 AM

Your mentioning of strobe lights made me notice one other thing about the LED bulb in the ceiling lamp. The light emitted is not quite omnidirectional as it is with the incandescent and CFLs. Nearly all of the LED light is emitted sideways and downwards, not upwards toward the fan blades - which means that the stroboscopic effect on the ceiling of the fan blades spinning over the lamps will be reduced by using all LED lamps. That's good because I've never liked that stroboscopic effect.

The fact that the LED light doesn't shine upward like the other lamps is likely the reason why it appears brighter when I look directly at it.

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06/11/2012 11:46 PM

Regarding the supposed life of LED lights, I was involved in testing some lamps for automotive industry.

We started a 1 sec on, 1 sec off cycle 24/7 2 years before the model was launched and 15 years later the devices were still working. (We turned it off when the factory closed.)

In all failures of LED assemblies it was either a process failure (soldering temperatures) or circuit assembly failure (dry joints/resistors/capacitors) or interconnections that was the root cause.

I think the consumers have become suspicious of long life claims because of bad experience with CFL, where type testing does not seem to be supported by experience. I've replaced 5/5 CFL's that burn less than 1 hour per day while standard fluoro and incandescent that were already in place have not yet failed. Discussion with others reveals similar observations.

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06/12/2012 2:31 AM

i think where LED lights need to end up is with a focus on the changes in wiring required.

if the engineering is refined and 24 volt units used instead of 110 / 240 volts AC you can run much smaller cables through the home saving in copper consumption.

less EMF , less heat produced by the ballast / step down transformers and less fire risk.

thats where i see the attraction , not just from the extended life of the LED assembly

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06/12/2012 10:16 AM

If lighting amounts to 10% of the bill, then what is being done about shaving bits off the other 90%? After all, a 10% reduction in the other 90% is worth nine times more than a 10% reduction in the lighting's 10%, isn't it?

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06/12/2012 11:51 AM

Absolutely, lighting is just a small part of the equation. One source gives this breakdown of the average energy bill:

  • 46% on HVAC systems.
  • 14% on Water Heating.
  • 12% on Lighting.
  • 13% on Home Appliances.
  • 11% on other Electronics Devices.
  • 4% on Phantom Loads

What is being done tech-wise for these other sectors is another branch of discussions. I imagine, though, that a lot of cost-shaving can come just from smarter appliance usage and thermostat control.

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06/14/2012 3:19 PM

Just completed a short course on energy saving. Your phantom loads can be as much as 17%. Depending on the age of the devices. Most home appliances and electronics consume power on standby while not in use.

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06/12/2012 1:37 PM

When I lived in Florida I had a heat recovery unit (like the one linked below) installed when I was having a new heat-pump HVAC system put in my house:

http://www.hotspotenergy.com/

For about 8 months of the year, when I was running A/C, I got 'free' hot water. The unit would take waste heat from the heat pump and send it to the hot water heater. During those months I never ran out of hot water. It can work with a 'standard' A/C also, for places where heat pumps are not recommended.

During the cooler months, it 'stole' some of the heat generated by the heat pump and fed that stolen heat to the water heater. So even then I was getting cheap hot water. On mild days when the HVAC wasn't running, the water heater's internal thermostat kicked in and used regular house 110VAC to heat water.

Overall my electricity bill went way down and I think the unit saved enough money over 2 or 3 years to pay for itself.

I don't know why these systems aren't promoted more, at least for use in Florida, especially since it sends the heat where it is useful (for heating water) rather than just dumping it directly into the environment and adding to the 'heat island' around the cities.

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06/13/2012 8:23 AM

Interesting, though not economic at these latitudes.

Coupling the usually-unused water immersion heater element to solar or wind generation is an attractive proposition here - provided the generating equipment can be impedance-matched to the 18Ω element, of course.

Telegrams to Del on this one, please.

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06/14/2012 11:43 AM

I saw that...

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10/02/2015 1:07 AM

Old thread, but why not! to upfit, and go after the 10 percent of waste costs far less, requires no construction or building modification, reduces excess heat, reduces electrical load on circuit, offers instant-on of an incandescent, is safer over food processing areas, can replace high energy high-bay fixtures in warehousing, eliminates mercury in the home and workplace, can be controlled wirelessly within the lamp base by an adapter for lighting schemes, emergency lighting can be integrated into standard fixtures. This first 10 percent is the low hanging fruit. As you go up through the inverted pyramid , the ROI extends and general difficulty of implementation increases, savings are harder to realize. It is like replacing an 75 percent efficient furnase with a new one. The ROI is not realized if at all over the life of the appliance, This is especiallyvtrue if one did not insulate attic and perimeter walls, and install effiecient windows. My house now has all recessed cans, about 17 of them Lights Of America conversions. a total of three have dies and been replaced. I enjoy fixtures that no longer shut off because of overheating, and light color is far better than the cfl Par style lamps produced. At office the skinny T-12 4ft flourecents are a champ. I replaced my first tube, since late 2007, when i had all 19 fixtures refitted from the old 4 tube T12s. Color is close to natural. These are the only flourescents. Conversion at full price was about 2,000.00, took 4 hours or so. Then there were rebates, and incentives ad landlord matched me dollar for dollar. Out of pocket, if i recall correctly about 700.00.And no time on ladder every three weeks repairing the end pieces and buying tubes.

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06/15/2012 11:14 AM

I have bought 12 LED bulbs on sale for $5 over the last couple years, I will use them in a house that is "off the grid".

I really don't see how lower manufacturing cost will result in lower consumer cost now. In the land of the free, you will buy whatever light bulb you're told to buy, regardless of cost!

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